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Re: Bat weights - how little things make a difference
« Reply #15 on: May 22, 2014, 04:28:26 PM »


I usually don't weigh my bat, I give batmaker my specs and on receiving the bat just have a feel of it and make a judgement whether it feels its weight or slightly lighter or heavier than my weight. I usually go about tapping the ball on the new bat for few hours and by that time I feel I get used to or "Be one" with the new bat to adjust to the weight. I think if I shadow or tap the bat for few hours I get used to its weight and then it becomes normal to me. If it is still heavier I'll take the stickers and small stuff off, if it feels lighter I'll add a few things on the bat lower down. Primary reason I don't weigh my bats is to make sure I don't have any doubts related to weight during batting, I already have lot of others to think about  ;)
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Re: Bat weights - how little things make a difference
« Reply #16 on: May 22, 2014, 10:25:57 PM »

Since we are talking about weight..s

Is GM ripple grip weighs less than two standard chevrons?

I found GM ripple grip is roughly twice the thickness of standard chevrons , but it weights over 2oz from what I read here.

My ripple weighed in at 2.25 ozs, about the same as 2 chevrons. Dead weight of my bat is now 2lb 12oz+ but the balance is great and the ripple on top of a chevron gives great protection from unwanted vibrations. If anyone's worried about too much dead weight, pump up your arm muscles a bit before batting. ;)
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Re: Bat weights - how little things make a difference
« Reply #17 on: May 23, 2014, 12:16:37 PM »

I saw a full sized bat yesterday finished at 2-4 and had some decent meat in it for a tall 13 year old. 
Was a DB1 profile and decent but it is hard to get that weight indeed.

Never choose a bat on dead weight unless you have no choice..

Look at the profile there are give away signs of good pick up and bad.



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Re: Bat weights - how little things make a difference
« Reply #18 on: May 23, 2014, 12:34:34 PM »

Last week I popped into our old fashioned local sports shop. You can get everything and they are a lovely family who run it.
Eurosports, Swiss Cottage, London (free plug).

I picked up some of that leaded tape.

Now, reading Buzz's thoughts I wanted to check if it had made a difference.

My H4L match bat, with 4 oz's of tape at the very top of the handle, has the same pick-up as my Newbery Mjolnir SPS.
The weight of the H4L before the tape; 2lb 10, after 2lb 14. The SPS, 2lb 9.

This is unscientific as I cannot measure density nor are the profiles identical, but it may be worth trying if you've not done it before.

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Re: Bat weights - how little things make a difference
« Reply #19 on: May 23, 2014, 12:47:00 PM »

I usually don't weigh my bat, I give batmaker my specs and on receiving the bat just have a feel of it and make a judgement whether it feels its weight or slightly lighter or heavier than my weight. I usually go about tapping the ball on the new bat for few hours and by that time I feel I get used to or "Be one" with the new bat to adjust to the weight. I think if I shadow or tap the bat for few hours I get used to its weight and then it becomes normal to me. If it is still heavier I'll take the stickers and small stuff off, if it feels lighter I'll add a few things on the bat lower down. Primary reason I don't weigh my bats is to make sure I don't have any doubts related to weight during batting, I already have lot of others to think about  ;)
How do you give a bat maker your specs if you don't weight your bats?
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Re: Bat weights - how little things make a difference
« Reply #20 on: May 23, 2014, 12:51:50 PM »

How do you give a bat maker your specs if you don't weight your bats?

You go to the maker if you can or use your experience or trust a maker.

I can tell you how to save a ounce off your bat if you use a full length rubber and scuff.

Did anybody know the exact weight of a normal mans scuff sheet normal helicopter and yes there a difference in weights between mens and youths. 0.8oz to 0.6oz junior. (Hell the things you learn)

Also stretch your grip you can normally cut off quite a bit of weight.
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Re: Bat weights - how little things make a difference
« Reply #21 on: May 23, 2014, 01:08:15 PM »

Last week I popped into our old fashioned local sports shop. You can get everything and they are a lovely family who run it.
Eurosports, Swiss Cottage, London (free plug).

I picked up some of that leaded tape.

Now, reading Buzz's thoughts I wanted to check if it had made a difference.

My H4L match bat, with 4 oz's of tape at the very top of the handle, has the same pick-up as my Newbery Mjolnir SPS.
The weight of the H4L before the tape; 2lb 10, after 2lb 14. The SPS, 2lb 9.

This is unscientific as I cannot measure density nor are the profiles identical, but it may be worth trying if you've not done it before.


You've added 4oz to make you bat pick up like your 2lb 9oz bat.
It may well feel better in pick up but what about square cuts and pulls? Does it feel the same? Or does it seem cumbersome.
You also have to factor in that after 40over innings, you've been carrying 4oz extra about. It may not seem much, but when you going for that ton, it could be the difference between a perfectly timed drive for 4. Or a tired slash that goes to the keeper!



I had a ton that wasn't quite right for me, tried the lead tape malarkey, but it never ever felt right so gave up trying that method.

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Re: Bat weights - how little things make a difference
« Reply #22 on: May 23, 2014, 01:15:42 PM »

Last week I popped into our old fashioned local sports shop. You can get everything and they are a lovely family who run it.
Eurosports, Swiss Cottage, London (free plug).

I picked up some of that leaded tape.

Now, reading Buzz's thoughts I wanted to check if it had made a difference.

My H4L match bat, with 4 oz's of tape at the very top of the handle, has the same pick-up as my Newbery Mjolnir SPS.
The weight of the H4L before the tape; 2lb 10, after 2lb 14. The SPS, 2lb 9.

This is unscientific as I cannot measure density nor are the profiles identical, but it may be worth trying if you've not done it before.

Is it any good in there? I used to live right near it but I never managed to venture in...
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Re: Bat weights - how little things make a difference
« Reply #23 on: May 23, 2014, 03:39:52 PM »

Is it any good in there? I used to live right near it but I never managed to venture in...

They have everything! It's like an alladins cave, but it's not underground or a cave, and I don't think any of the staff are called alladin.

I had my badminton rackets re-strung recently. They got the tension perfectly. Normally I have to use it for a few games to get it bedded in. Loads of string choices too.
They really know their stuff.




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Re: Bat weights - how little things make a difference
« Reply #24 on: May 24, 2014, 12:24:52 PM »

My teammate has given me his brand new GN Powerspot to prepare prior to use it has a mid middle and it's weight is  2- 9 with one grips it pickup feels the same as my 2-7 bats which are also have a mid middle.
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Re: Bat weights - how little things make a difference
« Reply #25 on: May 25, 2014, 06:09:28 PM »

How do you give a bat maker your specs if you don't weight your bats?

I usually don't weigh my bats after I receive them, from playing experience I know I can use most bats in 2.9.5 to 2.11.5 depending on the pickup with ideal being 2.10.5. I usually ask a batmaker to provide bat with pickup of around 2.10.5 and want biggest bat possible in a specific profile. Depending on the profile I may get a 2.10 or 2.12 and with relative pickup I can play with them. And shadowing/tapping the ball for a few hours make me feel comfortable with the bat. I am no pro ( and no Mike Hussey) so don't have a specific weight I play with, thanks to playing with borrowed bats for quite a few years.
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