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Re: Saeed Ajmal
« Reply #105 on: September 09, 2014, 09:07:18 AM »

Is there anywhere these reports from the analysts can be read, googling seems to suggest Sananayake failed his tests by a good margin.

http://www.sportskeeda.com/cricket/sachithra-senanayakes-elbow-extends-by-43-degrees-test-reports-deceive'
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« Reply #106 on: September 09, 2014, 09:07:34 AM »

I think it's a shame he's been banned. Everything seems to be stacked in the batsmen's favor with shorter boundaries, fielding restrictions, free hits and changing thier bats. A bowler can't  get a new ball until a certain  amount of overs have been bowled or the umpires  deems its out of shape.
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Re: Saeed Ajmal
« Reply #107 on: September 09, 2014, 09:12:15 AM »

Wonder if Ajmal will retire instead of undergo remedial work? Pakistan must be very concerned now.

It is embarrassing when, and I quote 'All of his deliveries are illegal'.

If it was just the doosra, or the quicker ball, fair enough - genuine mistake or bio-mechanical problem (e.g Marlon Samuels or Kane Williamson) but this is ALL of his deliveries.

That basically says to me that every ball he has bowled is against the rules of cricket...

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Re: Saeed Ajmal
« Reply #108 on: September 09, 2014, 09:14:24 AM »

I think it's a shame he's been banned. Everything seems to be stacked in the batsmen's favor with shorter boundaries, fielding restrictions, free hits and changing thier bats. A bowler can't  get a new ball until a certain  amount of overs have been bowled or the umpires  deems its out of shape.

I appreciate your point - but 'throwing' is against the rules of the game. Hitting the gym or having thicker bats is not.

Fair play to bowlers for trying new things. I am a bowler and I try my variations. However if it is outside the laws of the game... Surely that cant be tolerated?

Edit: By these new findings, bans etc... Does this mean Graeme Swann is the best spinner of the modern generation, aside from Warne?! Surely not!
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Re: Saeed Ajmal
« Reply #109 on: September 09, 2014, 09:34:31 AM »

big news as has been said above, because it's not just the doosra delivery, it's all of them

Pakistan are appealing the decision, unless they are successful I just cannot see how it's possible to remodel his action for all deliveries at his age....

Have to say i'm with most on this forum, not because i'm English or because we don't have a mystery spinner, it's because throwing is against the laws of the game

Sadly I have seen it on five separate occasions on Saturdays in League cricket, the umpires do nothing about it,so it's getting into club cricket
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Re: Saeed Ajmal
« Reply #110 on: September 09, 2014, 09:37:44 AM »

I appreciate your point - but 'throwing' is against the rules of the game. Hitting the gym or having thicker bats is not.

Fair play to bowlers for trying new things. I am a bowler and I try my variations. However if it is outside the laws of the game... Surely that cant be tolerated?

Edit: By these new findings, bans etc... Does this mean Graeme Swann is the best spinner of the modern generation, aside from Warne?! Surely not!

Im sure last time he had his action tested the ICC test said there was something  wrong with his elbow. I think his elbow was bent at 9 degrees resting.
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Re: Saeed Ajmal
« Reply #111 on: September 09, 2014, 09:42:24 AM »

Im sure last time he had his action tested the ICC test said there was something  wrong with his elbow. I think his elbow was bent at 9 degrees.
Correct - so his flex limit is therefore 9 through to 24 degrees (15 degrees of flex - which always made his action look bad.)

The testing implies that he has started throwing the ball from more than this level of flex.
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Re: Saeed Ajmal
« Reply #112 on: September 09, 2014, 09:54:48 AM »

Correct - so his flex limit is therefore 9 through to 24 degrees (15 degrees of flex - which always made his action look bad.)

The testing implies that he has started throwing the ball from more than this level of flex.

Yh his action does look  bad
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Re: Saeed Ajmal
« Reply #113 on: September 09, 2014, 10:18:59 AM »

With most of the other doosra bowlers reported It goes to show it's virtually impossible to bowl one legally.

Hopefully it might stop young bowlers constantly struggling to bowl a mystery ball & make them concentrate on perfecting their stock ball and using  f&g
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Re: Saeed Ajmal
« Reply #114 on: September 09, 2014, 10:23:09 AM »

With most of the other doosra bowlers reported It goes to show it's virtually impossible to bowl one legally.

Hopefully it might stop young bowlers constantly struggling to bowl a mystery ball & make them concentrate on perfecting their stock ball and using  f&g
What does f&g mean at your club?
Ours has a new meaning of filth & gash the way our spinners (including myself) bowl!  :D
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Re: Saeed Ajmal
« Reply #115 on: September 09, 2014, 10:31:26 AM »

Flight and Guile.

What's wrong bowling a Carrom Ball - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrom_ball

Can be bowled legally by an off spinner.
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Re: Saeed Ajmal
« Reply #116 on: September 09, 2014, 10:32:28 AM »

With most of the other doosra bowlers reported It goes to show it's virtually impossible to bowl one legally.

I think  you forgot about  Saqlain Mushtaq he did bowl a vry good doosra
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Re: Saeed Ajmal
« Reply #117 on: September 09, 2014, 10:33:36 AM »

Young spinners can also go for a bit of T&B!

The only ball I think an offspinner can bowl that goes the other way legally is possibly the carrom ball.

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Re: Saeed Ajmal
« Reply #118 on: September 09, 2014, 10:38:37 AM »

Haha, I could definitely be put in that category! Most of our guys note us for our 'selection of patisserie'
Many a time I've trundled in to bowl with mid on pushing an imaginary buffet cart beside me  :D
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Re: Saeed Ajmal
« Reply #119 on: September 09, 2014, 10:39:21 AM »

Young spinners can also go for a bit of T&B!

The only ball I think an offspinner can bowl that goes the other way legally is possibly the carrom ball.
Or bowl an obvious leggie haha
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