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Re: Saeed Ajmal
« Reply #120 on: September 09, 2014, 10:42:20 AM »

Young spinners can also go for a bit of T&B!

The only ball I think an offspinner can bowl that goes the other way legally is possibly the carrom ball.

yes, Redders can bowl it pretty well as it's bowled out of the front of the hand with the fingers.
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Re: Saeed Ajmal
« Reply #121 on: September 09, 2014, 10:44:09 AM »

Young spinners can also go for a bit of T&B!

The only ball I think an offspinner can bowl that goes the other way legally is possibly the carrom ball.

I don't think many club cricketers will have tried the carton yet, let alone perfect it.
I hope they do so I stop seeing a chucker every other week!
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Re: Saeed Ajmal
« Reply #122 on: September 09, 2014, 10:44:29 AM »

Or bowl an obvious leggie haha

Unless you can bowl a googly. I've only just learned how to bowl genuine leggies now my knee is knackered. All by previous attempts at leg spin turned like an off spin due to the ball coming out the back of my hand. Now I've worked out how to bowl genuine leg spin, I already have a googly in the locker. Think I'm probably going to keep working on it unless this reconstruction works miracles and I can go back to good old fashioned blunt force trauma (trying to bowl as quickly as I can).
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Re: Saeed Ajmal
« Reply #123 on: September 09, 2014, 10:45:51 AM »

I don't think many club cricketers will have tried the carton yet, let alone perfect it.
I hope they do so I stop seeing a chucker every other week!

*Carrom*

Damn you autocorrect! Or have I just invented a new type of delivery  :D
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Re: Saeed Ajmal
« Reply #124 on: September 09, 2014, 10:48:47 AM »

*Carrom*

Damn you autocorrect! Or have I just invented a new type of delivery  :D
The carton ball could be a new delivery, nice to see someone thinking outside the box!  :-[
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Re: Saeed Ajmal
« Reply #125 on: September 09, 2014, 10:50:03 AM »

It must turn square! :)
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Re: Saeed Ajmal
« Reply #126 on: September 09, 2014, 10:56:49 AM »

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Re: Saeed Ajmal
« Reply #127 on: September 09, 2014, 03:58:41 PM »

He has said he can correct his action! Let's say he does correct it.

Will he still get the turn and wickets he used to?!

It would be really quite awkward if he did not!
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Re: Saeed Ajmal
« Reply #128 on: September 09, 2014, 04:07:32 PM »

wait a sec, he can correct it?  surely that implies he knew there was an issue and carried on regardless?
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Re: Saeed Ajmal
« Reply #129 on: September 09, 2014, 04:20:45 PM »

wait a sec, he can correct it?  surely that implies he knew there was an issue and carried on regardless?

senanayake tried to pull the wool over the testers eyes by changing his action but they rumbled him when they viewed the match footage. Wonder just how Ajmal thinks he can change it without falling into the same trap. Without a cast or extensive remodelling I can't see it being a quick fix. Would love to know how much bend he was measured at.
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Re: Saeed Ajmal
« Reply #130 on: September 09, 2014, 10:35:55 PM »

Saeed Ajmal does have natural bent in his arm, however, his action test this year is not the same as one tested in 2009, certainly evident from the video footages even. Now if thats due to workload, fatigue muscles et cetera then thats a separate debate.

He said he will remodel and present his medical reports.

ICC is really incompetent, if his action had changed then why did it take so long to get it re-test?
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Re: Saeed Ajmal
« Reply #131 on: September 12, 2014, 12:28:19 PM »

In the guardian...
The suspended Pakistan off-spinner Saeed Ajmal had an average elbow extension of well over twice the allowable limit during testing of his bowling action in Australia last month.

Ajmal recorded an astonishing 40 degrees with a relatively small standard deviation of 2.5 degrees at the National Cricket Centre in Brisbane, according to a 23-page report on the tests last month. The rules allow for an elbow extension of 15 degrees.

The report says none of the deliveries by Ajmal during the eight overs of testing – some overs were not of the usual six balls – came close to meeting International Cricket Council regulations. During testing, Ajmal bowled off-spin from both over and around the wicket, the doosra, and quicker balls.


That is more extension than a darts player uses.

EDIT:
more details on the testing
The over-by-over testing:

1st: Over the wicket: Average elbow extension 39 degrees

2nd: Over the wicket: 37 degrees

3rd: Around the wicket: 41 degrees

4th: Around the wicket (wide of the crease): 41 degrees

5th: Around the wicket: 42 degrees

6th: Around the wicket, doosra: 40 degrees

7th: Around the wicket, quicker balls: 38 degrees

8th: Over the wicket, quicker balls: 42 degrees
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Re: Saeed Ajmal
« Reply #132 on: September 12, 2014, 12:30:48 PM »

In the guardian...
The suspended Pakistan off-spinner Saeed Ajmal had an average elbow extension of well over twice the allowable limit during testing of his bowling action in Australia last month.

Ajmal recorded an astonishing 40 degrees with a relatively small standard deviation of 2.5 degrees at the National Cricket Centre in Brisbane, according to a 23-page report on the tests last month. The rules allow for an elbow extension of 15 degrees.

The report says none of the deliveries by Ajmal during the eight overs of testing – some overs were not of the usual six balls – came close to meeting International Cricket Council regulations. During testing, Ajmal bowled off-spin from both over and around the wicket, the doosra, and quicker balls.
And if that isn't chucking, I don't know what is. It's taken far too long for him to be called, given that evidence.
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Re: Saeed Ajmal
« Reply #133 on: September 12, 2014, 12:47:44 PM »

Do we need to discuss if there needs to be a sort of drugs testing procedure for chucking.

Random tests, tests with short notice?! Most other sports do a crazy amount of testing in various forms, why not test all bowlers for chucking?

Congrats you have passed the test you can now bowl freely for 12 months?!
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Re: Saeed Ajmal
« Reply #134 on: September 12, 2014, 07:27:11 PM »

Cameras at grounds?

Short sleeves only?

Picking a random few overs in a day to get footage analysed?
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