Topic: So, who'll it be? (Read 11671 times)

wayward_hayward · « **Reply #30 on:** June 05, 2014, 06:03:05 AM »

Cook
Robson
Compton
Bell
Root
Ali
Prior/Buttler
Stokes
Broad
Jordan
Anderson

Strength in depth on the batting front, with Jordan a very handy number 10. Only thing that worries me with the batting line up in is slow nature of the scoring, suppose Ali or Prior could be moved up in certain situations.

Confident that all four seamers can take wickets and make life difficult for the Sri Lankan's. I think it's time to find out what Ali has in the spin department too.

joeljonno · « **Reply #31 on:** June 05, 2014, 07:40:29 AM »

Quote from: Buzz on June 04, 2014, 09:54:15 PM

fogive me for pointing this out, but cricket is supposed to be a spectator sport at professional level (a fact often forgetten ..)
as we had in the ashes in Aus fast bowling is the biggest spectacle in cricket, followed by destructive batting.

so picking a team of blockers and nurderlers will hardle endear the team to the fans or remove the Kp "noise"

Err, no, all professional sport is a business these days. Gone are the days when they put spectators before money and victory.

The selectors are there to pick the team they think will do the best job in winning the games. If that is to draw a lot and win a few, rather than gamble on egotistical batsmen and hot-or-cold bowlers then so be it.

For those who say Root is overrated, he has had a very good average, just fallen off a bit in the last twelve months and is still extremely young for international cricket. He has the potential to be one of the best batsman in the world. A bit of stability, either in one position for a couple of years or a season back at county level will help massively.

tim2000s · « **Reply #32 on:** June 05, 2014, 07:50:41 AM »

Quote from: joeljonno on June 05, 2014, 07:40:29 AM

Err, no, all professional sport is a business these days. Gone are the days when they put spectators before money and victory.

The selectors are there to pick the team they think will do the best job in winning the games. If that is to draw a lot and win a few, rather than gamble on egotistical batsmen and hot-or-cold bowlers then so be it.

For those who say Root is overrated, he has had a very good average, just fallen off a bit in the last twelve months and is still extremely young for international cricket. He has the potential to be one of the best batsman in the world. A bit of stability, either in one position for a couple of years or a season back at county level will help massively.

Professional sport is a business, and you make money by winning games and attracting people to buy stuff/tickets at those games.

Sadly, the difference between winning, and winning like in 2005 is that if you do it in the style of 2005, a wider population becomes interested and you potentially drive up revenues thanks to this interest.

If you do it in the nudging, nurdling, boring manner, you get no-one feeling any passion and no-one wanting to spend any money.

Whether you do make make more money by losing in style than by simply winning, I don't know, but you'd get equal TV coverage.... Unfortunately this is England, so winning boring is better than losing in style...!

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #33 on:** June 05, 2014, 08:41:02 AM »

Pro sport is ow run as a business where the � is he most important. The trouble is, the game will only survive and heaven forbid grow (in this country) when England are an attractive team to watch. I want in cricket at the time but 2005 dragged cricket from the grave, the older guys say it was dead and buried. 2005 got the media going, got the paying public going and made people who had fallen out for the game or never played it come back/start. The legacy of that series is all the kids teams you see now.

As much as the ECB goes on about chance to shine reaching millions more kids.. I suspect that again, the numbers of playin adults and kids is dropping and dropping fast again.

By all means play to win but it'll be pointless being ECB premier league champs in 15 years if only a very small amount of people play the game.

uknsaunders · « **Reply #34 on:** June 05, 2014, 08:41:52 AM »

Difference being the 2005 was on terrestrial tv, ie. everyone could watch it. England also had the personalities to market better. Both equalled more awareness and hype. I'm not sure the 2010-12 version a less attractive team to watch, they scored at a fair clip until negative tactics and painfully slow decks slowed them down. What they didn't have was the same level of hype to make people believe they were playing exciting cricket. People gloss over how boring and negative Ashley Giles was, for example!

Kulli · « **Reply #35 on:** June 05, 2014, 09:10:01 AM »

What time is the side announced at?

csnew · « **Reply #36 on:** June 05, 2014, 09:11:20 AM »

Surprised no room for Ben stokes and woaked selected over him. Drop the standout player for England in the ashes!
Onions must be disappointed to be overlooked again for plunkett.
No front line spinner either.
It was the perfect chance to move away from prior and select buttler.

At least bresnan has been finally been dropped

csnew · « **Reply #37 on:** June 05, 2014, 09:12:04 AM »

Squad Alastair Cook, Moeen Ali, James Anderson, Gary Ballance, Ian Bell, Stuart Broad, Chris Jordan, Liam Plunkett, Matt Prior, Sam Robson, Joe Root, Chris Woakes

iand123 · « **Reply #38 on:** June 05, 2014, 09:15:27 AM »

Woakes 12th man?

golders · « **Reply #39 on:** June 05, 2014, 09:19:03 AM »

Nice long tail should the top order fail!plunkett has wheels,would love him add another 5mph so he's bowling 90 plus regularly..

uknsaunders · « **Reply #40 on:** June 05, 2014, 09:19:21 AM »

Quote from: csnew on June 05, 2014, 09:12:04 AM

Squad Alastair Cook, Moeen Ali, James Anderson, Gary Ballance, Ian Bell, Stuart Broad, Chris Jordan, Liam Plunkett, Matt Prior, Sam Robson, Joe Root, Chris Woakes

Woakes? - he'll be in the XI :-(

Ballance must of kissed some serious (No Swearing Please), not convinced by him at all. Ali is fair enough. I doubt spin will play much part at the moment if the weather stays like this. Reckon Jordon will miss out.

Stokes must be seriously hacked off. Not sure what more he could of done. One of our few convincing players in the ashes.

Stuey · « **Reply #41 on:** June 05, 2014, 09:20:10 AM »

Good to see Plunkett back, apparently he has been bowling wheels.

csnew · « **Reply #42 on:** June 05, 2014, 09:22:15 AM »

So stokes hasn't played enough cricket so that's why he's not selected yet prior's played only 1 game and gets the nod :s

Kieron_BT · « **Reply #43 on:** June 05, 2014, 09:22:36 AM »

1 - Cook
2 - Robson
3 - Root
4 - Balance
5 - Bell
6 - Ali
7 - Prior
8 - Plunkett
9 - Jordan
10 - Broad
11 - Anderson

12 - Woakes

long batting line up - Whats Stokes done wrong?

uknsaunders · « **Reply #44 on:** June 05, 2014, 09:22:53 AM »

It will be:-

Cook
Robson
Root
Bell
Ballance
Ali
Woakes :-(
Prior
Broad
Plunkett
Anderson

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