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Re: Top End Cricket Bats are a Luxury for the amateur cricketer...
« Reply #45 on: June 10, 2014, 01:03:01 PM »

I spent £205 on a bat once. Never spending that again! Low end bargains to be had from the big manufacturers, or a nice lower grade custom is a better bet.
After all, you're paying for looks, not performance.
Save money - go for a munter!  ;)

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« Reply #46 on: June 10, 2014, 01:04:35 PM »

Who is the more foolish, the man who spends £400 on one bat and uses it for matches, nets, etc or the man who spends £1000s on 10+ bats and most hardly ever get used?
I wasn't going there. The point was more that a £400 bat that is used twice a week and lasts for 18-24 months isn't necessarily value for money... If you have more than one then you clearly have more money than most.
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« Reply #47 on: June 10, 2014, 01:10:34 PM »

I almost see buying bat's as a collection, instead of tools that are Required , it really boils down to this IMO:

Is spending excessive amounts of money on cricket bat's that won't be used that much necessary?   Certainly Not!

Is spending excessive amounts of money on cricket bat's that won't be used that much Fun and enjoyable? Hell Yeah!

People work hard to earn their own money, you cannot call someone foolish because they chose to spend their money on something they want

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« Reply #48 on: June 10, 2014, 01:18:55 PM »

Who is the more foolish, the man who spends £400 on one bat and uses it for matches, nets, etc or the man who spends £1000s on 10+ bats and most hardly ever get used?

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« Reply #49 on: June 10, 2014, 05:59:39 PM »

I have bats from each end of the spectrum from £100 - £500 and I believe there is a difference personally. You can get some amazing deals as we have seen from SD but they make there money in other ways and in some ways must make something on the gear they sell.

You could have bought a bike that would do the same job for £100 but spent £500. You could also have bought a bike for £5000 but £500 was your budget, choice, deal whatever. It's the same with bats in my opinion. You spend what you want or can afford simple really. Do you need to spend more than £200 probably not but if you do its not a problem in my view.

I could try and argue a reason why companies brand charge more but feel to some it would be a waste if my time. Some will just sticker up ready mades or have there bats made by others and claim to make them themselves these I do not get charging over £250 for example but those that have overheads, multiple workshops, employees etc in my view can charge what they like. At the end of the day if they have been around a while they have a good idea of the business they run.
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« Reply #50 on: June 10, 2014, 07:36:44 PM »

I can't see any reason to spend any more than £150 on a bat, let alone double that. Even within my small budget, I have been able to acquire some fantastic bats through sales or the second hand market. I don't see the need to pay anything more.
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« Reply #51 on: June 10, 2014, 09:04:42 PM »

As I was cycling in to work today, on a bike that cost around 500 of the Queen's shiny pounds, it occurred to me just how expensive some of the top end bats are.

Here I had a bike that cost only slightly more than a top end chunk of willow with some cane sticking out of it, and I was able to use it to commute to work and save myself the cost of public transport. The more I thought about it the dafter it seemed. Once you get above three hundred shiny pounds you are into territory that is frankly, a little scary. As I mentioned, you can purchase yourself a reasonable bike, a number of household appliances, a reasonable digital SLR, in fact, a whole host of things. As we've also discovered, you can get some very decent bats at a whole lot less than this price (especially if you shop at Sports Direct).

Given the complexity of many of these items, is it reasonable to spend £400 on a piece of willow? Is a batmaker's time, space and knowledge really that valuable for something that is not your livelihood?

There will always be amateurs who shop at the bargain end of the market, and there will always be people who shop at the top end of the market. I know amateur photographers who  will spend several thousand on top of the range body and another few thousand on high quality long lenses. Equally there will be people who only have a Ford Fiesta as a car while others will buy a Ferrari. It's their money and their choice!
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« Reply #52 on: June 10, 2014, 09:07:57 PM »

I can't see any reason to spend any more than £150 on a bat, let alone double that. Even within my small budget, I have been able to acquire some fantastic bats through sales or the second hand market. I don't see the need to pay anything more.

I'm with you on that. I've never paid more than £150 for a bat. And my current match bat was picked up on here for a very reasonable price and is an absolute gun!
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« Reply #53 on: June 10, 2014, 09:28:23 PM »

I have bats from each end of the spectrum from £100 - £500 and I believe there is a difference personally. You can get some amazing deals as we have seen from SD but they make there money in other ways and in some ways must make something on the gear they sell.

You could have bought a bike that would do the same job for £100 but spent £500. You could also have bought a bike for £5000 but £500 was your budget, choice, deal whatever. It's the same with bats in my opinion. You spend what you want or can afford simple really. Do you need to spend more than £200 probably not but if you do its not a problem in my view.

I could try and argue a reason why companies brand charge more but feel to some it would be a waste if my time. Some will just sticker up ready mades or have there bats made by others and claim to make them themselves these I do not get charging over £250 for example but those that have overheads, multiple workshops, employees etc in my view can charge what they like. At the end of the day if they have been around a while they have a good idea of the business they run.

I think the difference between a bike and bat are how they are priced and their components.

A bat is priced on looks. Pure and simple. I've not seen a 4 grain bat sold for top dollar.

A bike is priced on the quality, materials, craftsmanship of the components. A 5k bike will have the highest quality components, craftsmanship, technology. A 500 quid bat? Well, it's snake oil.

You don't buy a 5k bike  =because it's got sexy graphics. but you buy a 500 quid bat because it's got 12 straight grains.
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Re: Top End Cricket Bats are a Luxury for the amateur cricketer...
« Reply #54 on: June 10, 2014, 09:45:23 PM »

I've said it before, but the prices some bat makers charge is hilarious! How can anyone defend a brand with one workshop, low overhead charging >300/350/400? You know who you are.
Even worse are the box shifters who buy blanks, sticker them up, hype them to the stars, and charge >300. You know who you are.


Anyone in particular?
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« Reply #55 on: June 10, 2014, 09:57:14 PM »

I think the difference between a bike and bat are how they are priced and their components.

A bat is priced on looks. Pure and simple. I've not seen a 4 grain bat sold for top dollar.

A bike is priced on the quality, materials, craftsmanship of the components. A 5k bike will have the highest quality components, craftsmanship, technology. A 500 quid bat? Well, it's snake oil.

You don't buy a 5k bike  =because it's got sexy graphics. but you buy a 500 quid bat because it's got 12 straight grains.
I'm not that's 100% fair. You also buy on name, which is also true of bikes, however, if you want to spend 5k on a bike, you're able to get a lesser name with great quality kit.

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Re: Top End Cricket Bats are a Luxury for the amateur cricketer...
« Reply #56 on: June 10, 2014, 10:09:22 PM »

Plus you're usually getting the latest technology with high end bikes. The materials used in a bat however are pretty much the same no matter what price point
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« Reply #57 on: June 10, 2014, 10:15:17 PM »

Plus you're usually getting the latest technology with high end bikes. The materials used in a bat however are pretty much the same no matter what price point
Unless you buy a Lekka, they'll always have the latest XXXtra good teXXXnology in theirs!  ;)
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Re: Top End Cricket Bats are a Luxury for the amateur cricketer...
« Reply #58 on: June 11, 2014, 12:22:39 AM »

I think the difference between a bike and bat are how they are priced and their components.

A bat is priced on looks. Pure and simple. I've not seen a 4 grain bat sold for top dollar.

A bike is priced on the quality, materials, craftsmanship of the components. A 5k bike will have the highest quality components, craftsmanship, technology. A 500 quid bat? Well, it's snake oil.

You don't buy a 5k bike  =because it's got sexy graphics. but you buy a 500 quid bat because it's got 12 straight grains.

Agreed. You can break a bike down into its components to find the price. A bike requires R&D , engineering, welding etc. But a 500pound bat is the same as a 200pound in regards to its requirements to get made.

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Re: Top End Cricket Bats are a Luxury for the amateur cricketer...
« Reply #59 on: June 11, 2014, 02:33:08 AM »

So all bat makers get paid the same?
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