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Re: England v Sri Lanka Test matches
« Reply #225 on: June 25, 2014, 08:50:42 AM »

What advice did Cook seek?  Apparently none.  Which is even more worrying!

He did run off the pitch at one point....

Apparently when this happened Bell, Prior and Broad were all moving fielders! So not sure if the team knows who VC is either!

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Re: England v Sri Lanka Test matches
« Reply #226 on: June 25, 2014, 09:00:10 AM »

He did run off the pitch at one point....

best place for him...
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Re: England v Sri Lanka Test matches
« Reply #227 on: June 25, 2014, 09:16:07 AM »


I don't understand why he was even holding the bat in that situation.  As soon as Eranga's shoulder dipped he should have dropped it and let the ball hit him.

Err, because it is his livelihood. He gets hit, injured, out for the summer. Might not get back in the team.

If you have a bat, use it.

You cannot blame Jimmy.

Blame the dropped catches. Blame the 5 wickets to fall the night before. Blame Moeen for not being able to farm the strike better, but not Jimmy on this occasion.

If he had played it and it had not gone to the fielder, no-one would be complaining, they would say well batted.
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Re: England v Sri Lanka Test matches
« Reply #228 on: June 25, 2014, 09:18:48 AM »

Do Slazenger make a V1200 model without a butt-crack on the back?

Just wondered, as I don't think Jimmy's had a butt-crack on the back, so I wondered what he was using?
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Re: England v Sri Lanka Test matches
« Reply #229 on: June 25, 2014, 09:33:07 AM »

Err, because it is his livelihood. He gets hit, injured, out for the summer. Might not get back in the team.

If you have a bat, use it.

You cannot blame Jimmy.

You actually can.  There were two balls to go - if he did not hit it he was not getting out therefore get the bat as far away as possible - if you can sway out of the way do so but otherwise, take one for the team!
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Re: England v Sri Lanka Test matches
« Reply #230 on: June 25, 2014, 10:19:46 AM »

Why did Moeen Ali, the last recognised batsman let the number 11 to face the last over and most critical over of the day.

Take one for the team and potentially get injured and potentially lose your livelihood playing for England?  Err, no. That is an idiot who thinks getting injured is above your career.

If the 'proper' batsmen can't bat, why should he put himself on the line.

One to the ribs and he could be out for the summer, not being fit enough for the winter as well.


There was no guarantee if he played it he would get out, so why risk your life on a couple of balls.

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Re: England v Sri Lanka Test matches
« Reply #231 on: June 25, 2014, 10:21:25 AM »

Furthermore, what would have happened if he had been hit and broken a rib so he could not bat on.

Still lost.

Blame the batsmen, not the last man out
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Re: England v Sri Lanka Test matches
« Reply #232 on: June 25, 2014, 10:27:35 AM »

I love seeing this... England in Meltdown, maybe KP worth a run against India.
I am still in shock that you didnt pick Ben Stokes he was the only light in your tour out here and then you pick 4 seamers and don't prepare green tops.
I havent gone through all 16 pages but what are people saying is the problem with ENG. Is it Cooks man management or is lack of ideas as a captain



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Re: England v Sri Lanka Test matches
« Reply #233 on: June 25, 2014, 10:37:13 AM »

Why did Moeen Ali, the last recognised batsman let the number 11 to face the last over and most critical over of the day.


Presumably he figured letting anderson start the last over on strike was less of a risk than him trying to force a single in once of the last 2 ball of the previous over.
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Re: England v Sri Lanka Test matches
« Reply #234 on: June 25, 2014, 10:48:34 AM »

Why did Moeen Ali, the last recognised batsman let the number 11 to face the last over and most critical over of the day.

Take one for the team and potentially get injured and potentially lose your livelihood playing for England?  Err, no. That is an idiot who thinks getting injured is above your career.

If the 'proper' batsmen can't bat, why should he put himself on the line.

One to the ribs and he could be out for the summer, not being fit enough for the winter as well.


There was no guarantee if he played it he would get out, so why risk your life on a couple of balls.
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Re: England v Sri Lanka Test matches
« Reply #235 on: June 25, 2014, 10:49:14 AM »

Why did Moeen Ali, the last recognised batsman let the number 11 to face the last over and most critical over of the day.

not sure there was an opportunity for a single, he did the right thing by not trying to manufacture one. 

Take one for the team and potentially get injured and potentially lose your livelihood playing for England?  Err, no. That is an idiot who thinks getting injured is above your career.

There was no guarantee if he played it he would get out, so why risk your life on a couple of balls.

Not sure if you're being soft or melodramatic here, but its definitely one or t'other. 

Graeme Smith walked out to face Mitchell Johnson with a broken hand in a dead rubber.  Colin Cowdrey batted with a broken arm and one hand on the bat.  Freddie Flintoff took years off his career bowling through painful injuries.  Because its a team sport and you sometimes have to put personal well being second to the needs of the team.  The best sides did...

He might get a bruise - (No Swearing Please) happens.  The amount of padding he had on, it was unlikely to be worse than that and, hello, there was a test series on the line.
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Re: England v Sri Lanka Test matches
« Reply #236 on: June 25, 2014, 10:53:42 AM »

I would love to see you face an 85mph bouncer into the ribs... Your natural instinct would be to play it, anyone who says he should have just 'let it hit him' is just being moronic in my opinion
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Re: England v Sri Lanka Test matches
« Reply #237 on: June 25, 2014, 11:00:24 AM »

Plenty of times ali could've taken a single from the 3rd ball and let jimmy face 3.  Instead he rejected it and got stuck at the other end, leaving Jimmy to face a whole over.

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Re: England v Sri Lanka Test matches
« Reply #238 on: June 25, 2014, 11:03:33 AM »

I would love to see you face an 85mph bouncer into the ribs... Your natural instinct would be to play it, anyone who says he should have just 'let it hit him' is just being moronic in my opinion
all depends, he probably would have a chest guard on as he had one out here and really if this was the 1980's you would just let it hit you.
was it really 85mph, the sri lankan attack looked popgun, maybe watch Michael Clarke vs Morne Morkel earlier this year. He was getting hammered and batted with a broken shoulder
arguably one of his greatest innings ever in my opinion.

Anderson has the heart the size of a pea if conditions aren't right for him and with the bat is the same atm, he use to be able to guts it out like he and Monty did in Cardiff all those years ago but now he looks scared 
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Re: England v Sri Lanka Test matches
« Reply #239 on: June 25, 2014, 11:12:03 AM »

Graeme Smith and Colin Cowdrey already had the injuries, so they could do that. It is different that injuring yourself deliberately. They knew they were going to miss the next few games with injury.

People have died by getting hit in the heart/throat area but you would put the team ahead of your life I presume.

Moeen had 6 balls to 'manufacture' a single. I have not sen the highlights yet, but I would guess one ball could have been worked for a single.

Cook, Bell, Robson, Plunkett all played bad shots on the first night and Ballance missed a straight one, yet you blame Anderson???

If he had done that in the morning session and England had been bowled out before lunch, you wouldn't be saying he should wear one, so why now?
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