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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #135 on: July 13, 2014, 10:38:54 PM »

Why not replace the umpires with robots with all kind of sensors or just a lot of stump cameras with heat sensors, cameras etc..and just give decisions through the Giant screens.

Umpiring is a skill people work hard to acquire and go through rigorous examinations and certification process to reach a level where they can officiate an international Test match. DRS just sends the wrong message to these hardworking people and can put them under a lot of pressure when making a decision. I wouldn't feel comfortable if someone is always standing over my shoulders while I work waiting for a mistake to point it out.

I hope this is a personal view rather than trying to defend BCCI.

The DRS doesn't replace the umpire, it's there to support hem if they make an error (see Matt Prior dismissal). Yes it's used tactically, but it is done so by umpire's too. When 1 team has a review, and 1 doesn't I've seen umpires give decisions to the team who can't review it. Therefor the other team can, making sure we have the correct result.

India used it at first, and on LBWs they were all terrible. It was like they were fresh graduates from the S.Broad LBW review academy. It was selfish the way they used them. It was embarrassing some of decisions reviewed, without even asking the non striker!!

If India only had a problem with Hawk-Eye, why not allow DRS with all but that?

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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #136 on: July 14, 2014, 09:07:12 AM »

So this Kerrigan, what county team is he playing for?
Peter Moores' Lancashire.

Sorry but Kerrigan is no more an international class spinner than I am
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #137 on: July 14, 2014, 10:39:44 AM »

Peter Moores' Lancashire.

Sorry but Kerrigan is no more an international class spinner than I am

I certainly hope he's improved since his debut. Not only was his bowling poor, but it's not nice to watch. Seeing a young-ish player being smashed around, doesn't really do anyone any favours. If he's not good enough, it makes England look bad, and damages his confidence. Some players just aren't good enough for test cricket, it's quite a step up from county level.

Hopefully he does well though, we desperately need a spinner in our attack.
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #138 on: July 14, 2014, 12:05:33 PM »

He was bowling at TB in the warm up to Balance and Robson. Didn't ask much of the batsman.

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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #139 on: July 14, 2014, 12:44:53 PM »

What is wrong with Monty? He is the only test quality spinner we have.
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #140 on: July 14, 2014, 12:54:11 PM »

Do team mates like monty?  He seems to get some awful glares at times, his attitude wasn't special when he played over here in grade cricket.
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #141 on: July 14, 2014, 01:01:37 PM »

What is wrong with Monty? He is the only test quality spinner we have.

Since his wife left him? He's gone off the rails big time! He's only just started to get his head down.

I heard the Essex players rounded against him when he kept turning up late to training and meetings and they told him they were working hard to make the club be the best it can they won't have him messing it up.

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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #142 on: July 14, 2014, 01:24:45 PM »

I hope this is a personal view rather than trying to defend BCCI.

The DRS doesn't replace the umpire, it's there to support hem if they make an error (see Matt Prior dismissal). Yes it's used tactically, but it is done so by umpire's too. When 1 team has a review, and 1 doesn't I've seen umpires give decisions to the team who can't review it. Therefor the other team can, making sure we have the correct result.

India used it at first, and on LBWs they were all terrible. It was like they were fresh graduates from the S.Broad LBW review academy. It was selfish the way they used them. It was embarrassing some of decisions reviewed, without even asking the non striker!!

If India only had a problem with Hawk-Eye, why not allow DRS with all but that?

I would never defend those scumbags running BCCI. I hate BCCI and it's practices but that's another topic of discussion. These are personal views and I am not against being able to use technology but it should be at the discretion of the Umpires. If they feel that they missed something or believe that the information they have captured in their head is not enough to make a fair decision they can decide to go upstairs for technology support through third umpire (about time third umpires are made to earn their money). Technology should be used as a support system rather than review system.
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #143 on: July 14, 2014, 02:44:18 PM »

Favourite moment of a boring test was Root telling Sharma "to go and review it" after a caught behind was turned down.
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #144 on: July 14, 2014, 08:35:11 PM »

Favourite moment of a boring test was Root telling Sharma "to go and review it" after a caught behind was turned down.

That's awesome
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #145 on: July 14, 2014, 09:15:13 PM »

Quality by Root. Surely the number of decisions that have gone against India, they must accept the system soon
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #146 on: July 14, 2014, 10:14:39 PM »

my oft derision of Nathan Lyon as a club bowler is thrown into sharp relief when Keggsy is considered a serious bet for England.

not to decry what he has achieved - namely a lot of cheap wickets at Aigburth - but can someone name for me another very slow spinner with limited revs and an action which cannot repeat under pressure who has succeeded in test cricket?
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #147 on: July 15, 2014, 06:56:23 AM »

Indian players have absolutely no right to even show the slightest disagreement with an Umpires' decision.  Top marks to Root (who seems as though he can tough it out with the best of them, he's definitely gone up in my estimations...) for telling Sharma what to do and where to go...

I've always loved Bumbles comment - "fine, you don't want to use it, that's fair enough.  We will though!"
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #148 on: July 15, 2014, 09:27:10 AM »

It isn't the Indian players who have decided not to use it though, it's the BCCI which might as well not be a cricket board the way they run things. People need to understand that the 11 players on the field aren't part of and don't represent their cricket board, they represent their country.
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #149 on: July 15, 2014, 09:53:33 AM »

It isn't the Indian players who have decided not to use it though, it's the BCCI which might as well not be a cricket board the way they run things. People need to understand that the 11 players on the field aren't part of and don't represent their cricket board, they represent their country.

Aren't national sides a representative side of that country's cricket board?
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