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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #180 on: July 15, 2014, 08:52:40 PM »

When Anderson has the right conditions he can be absolutely unplayable, but he'll never be in the same class as Steyn or Johnson (when his head's in the right place). He got pumped in the first innings and only when it was overcast and swinging around did he get wickets on the morning of day 5.
I honestly think Broad is a better bowler anyway, his lengths are great and he can get wickets almost anywhere.
Thank you someone with sense.
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« Reply #181 on: July 15, 2014, 08:55:09 PM »

I am flabbergasted that people are putting Mitchell Johnson in the same class as Dale Steyn.

Steyn is a freak who bowls fast, with decent control and movement.

Johnson has had a good few months since tweaks to his action. He is a long way from being 'a great'. He has had too many bad series to be out in this bracket yet. He needs at least two more years of consistency to be even remotely named in the same breath as Dale Steyn.
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #182 on: July 15, 2014, 09:03:08 PM »

Anderson has 300 test wickets. he has played in a team which has won series in aus, India, Sri Lanka in west Indies. the only places he hasn't won is pak/uae where he and broad were totally let down by the batsmen and SA where he has drawn a series.
I may be wrong but didn't Anderson play in the 2-1 tour in South Africa (2004/05?)
If so then the list becomes even more impressive!
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #183 on: July 15, 2014, 09:07:04 PM »

I'm sure Mitch will rectify that come next summer and Dale will do likewise in 2016.

Facts are facts...
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« Reply #184 on: July 15, 2014, 09:08:39 PM »

I have heard it many a time now that Anderson has pretty sharp tongue when he is bowling and especially bowling well.
But its amazing how he quacks like a duck when a reporter asks of him a simple question.

All this crap around Anderson is unwarranted, He is a fantastic bowler ofcourse not in the same bracket as Steyn.
And his style of bowling is most effective in seaming and swinging conditions.

Mitch is no great either. Just had  a 1 and 1/2 good series of Aus and SA.
Long way to go for him.
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« Reply #185 on: July 15, 2014, 09:08:57 PM »

It's the usual thing though.  I don't know many Englishmen that would class Jimmy as a great.  But we always go back to statistics,  and you can cut these things many ways.

Fundamentally, he's had great control of swing, both normal and reverse, where the likes of Lee had pace. Sure, he's not a great of the world game, but 300+ wickets also says he's not half bad.

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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #186 on: July 15, 2014, 09:11:09 PM »

I may be wrong but didn't Anderson play in the 2-1 tour in South Africa (2004/05?)
If so then the list becomes even more impressive!
He played 1 Test, the 4th Test.

And he was crap

2-117(Econ 4.17) & 0-32(Econ 5.33)

And England won that Test...

Yep clubbie Anderson as his best.
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #187 on: July 15, 2014, 09:12:55 PM »

I have heard it many a time now that Anderson has pretty sharp tongue when he is bowling and especially bowling well.
But its amazing how he quacks like a duck when a reporter asks of him a simple question.

All this crap around Anderson is unwarranted, He is a fantastic bowler ofcourse not in the same bracket as Steyn.
And his style of bowling is most effective in seaming and swinging conditions.

Mitch is no great either. Just had  a 1 and 1/2 good series of Aus and SA.
Long way to go for him.
Johnson has twice bowled Australia to series victories in South Africa. Since re-admission only Australia have won multi series in South Africa.

Yeah Mitch is pretty special. O
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #188 on: July 15, 2014, 09:14:45 PM »

Facts are facts...
Facts say Anderson is worst in Australia and South Africa respectively...

And Johnson has played 2 Tests in England vs Pakistan. He averages 32 vs England in England. And he bowled like a drain in that series....
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #189 on: July 15, 2014, 09:17:06 PM »

Johnson has twice bowled Australia to series victories in South Africa. Since re-admission only Australia have won multi series in South Africa.

Yeah Mitch is pretty special. O

so is Venkatesh Prasad as he bowled brilliantly on a away series in SA  ;)
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #190 on: July 15, 2014, 09:17:25 PM »

I swear Gerry is Bob Willis. Just be miserable and talk down 90% of cricket discussions where someone raves or is a fan of someone.

I can't blame you though as you enjoy it and Everytime get a nibble, if nobody responded then I'm not sure how long you'd carry on. Heck I've probably replied in the past and this very post could be hypocritical, bets let's hope
People read this and in the future just read on from your posts.

I don't think Jimmy should get a full ban. It's a push (from camp Ind) and putting his hands out in self defence (from camp ECB).

Either way it is not a dangerous striking of an opponent. If you give this ban 4 matches (the maximum) then you have no room to give a higher ban if a player punched another.

Of course, the BCCI has a lot of control in cricket so we'll see

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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #191 on: July 15, 2014, 09:17:42 PM »

Facts say Anderson is worst in Australia and South Africa respectively...

And Johnson has played 2 Tests in England vs Pakistan. He averages 32 vs England in England. And he bowled like a drain in that series....

Same pitches, even if a different (most likely with a worse batting line up at the time than England) team.
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #192 on: July 15, 2014, 09:21:29 PM »

I swear Gerry is Bob Willis. Just be miserable and talk down 90% of cricket discussions where someone raves or is a fan of someone.

I can't blame you though as you enjoy it and Everytime get a nibble, if nobody responded then I'm not sure how long you'd carry on. Heck I've probably replied in the past and this very post could be hypocritical, bets let's hope
People read this and in the future just read on from your posts.

I don't think Jimmy should get a full ban. It's a push (from camp Ind) and putting his hands out in self defence (from camp ECB).

Either way it is not a dangerous striking of an opponent. If you give this ban 4 matches (the maximum) then you have no room to give a higher ban if a player punched another.

Of course, the BCCI has a lot of control in cricket so we'll see

on another point why so much BCCI bashing I wonder sometime..We had ECB and CA calling all the shots at one time.
If you go back to the series in Australia...there were 6 players handed out a ban for over appealing or something and Sachin was accused of ball tampering...
still India continued the match and the series...

so its not about how much control BCCI has that will alter the decision..if so then even other boards have been guilty of the same in the past...
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #193 on: July 15, 2014, 09:23:54 PM »

I think it's just the BCCI is mucu less discrete in their methods of control and seem to just openly appear to have such a big influence in modern cricket, in a lot of places in a negative way.
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #194 on: July 15, 2014, 09:27:39 PM »

Well i dont know about that..it seems the right way to do things are the ECB way or CA way somehow..

I agree to all the bullshit around corruption and Srinivasan but BCCI as an evil body surely has been blown out of proportion...

there is article that came in guardian on Suarez biting incident which would have made a lot of sense here ( but just cant find it)
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