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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #375 on: July 21, 2014, 05:58:15 AM »

Who Can Captain England Moving Forward

This is the hardest one to answer.  I think we've done to death the fact that of the current side the only contenders are either due to be sacked, due to be dropped, not keen on the job or too young.  I do think Root is too young - not so much in terms of calender years as in terms of his development as a fully rounded cricketer - the fact is, England have rather messed him around, and he needs some time settled in one role in the side to get himself properly underway.

So, realistically, we need someone to captain England through to the end of the Ashes series next year.  And the choices are pretty thin.  Even if they were brave enough to go outside of the group, thre are not that many really good skippers in county cricket now, with a lot of clubs passing the role around like a chicken pox party; I've said before that the best tactical skipper in the county game has to Andrew Gale at Yorkshire and I stand by that.  However, he is some way short of test class with the bat - I make him approximately the 26th best choice - and giving him the job would require either one of the existing middle order to step up to open, or to be dropped for an opener, which would be a shame when the three youngsters have all done pretty well, and Bell is the one remaining established player once Cook is rested and Prior invited to fall on his sword.

That leaves two - Read and Foster.  The latter is the best keeper in the world and the more tactically astute leader, so would be my admittedly very reluctant choice.

Who Can Bowl Spin for England

Okay, we've established that Adil Rashid would have to arrange the assassination of every other spinner in England - including Nick Saunders - to get selected. So it might as well be Riley - Kerrigan will always struggle fo lack of pace and a repeatable action.

Who Can Open For England

Another tough one.  I think Cook might well come again - he looks terrible at the moment and the technical issues will remain, but mentally refreshed he will do better and, lets face it, the tactics causing such issues amount to "pitch the ****ing think up to him", which is hardly rocket science, and he has managed near enough 9000 test runs with that technique...

Robson, the jury is out.  He might make it, he might not - but for the rest of the Summer he can stay in situ and work at his game, because he clearly has the temprament to succeed.  The question is who partners him...and the answer has to be Adam Lyth.  Top runscorer in the Championship, making big scores in tough conditions and, lets face it, easier on the eye than Ian Bell...
 

How do we get Jordan Back in? (I think he'll score more runs than Stokes ATM)

Squad rotation, for a start.  And by dropping Stokes.
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #376 on: July 21, 2014, 10:18:48 AM »

I think sometimes we over complicate things.

I think Cook does need a break and time to rebuild his technique. Gooch gave a very blunt interview last week saying as much. At the moment anybody is better than Cook, but long term he is important to the England team as a player if not a captain. To me it's a shame Prior is on the verge of getting dropped and he would be the obvious candidate to me. He's a leader in a team currently devoid of them. Maybe 3 tests as captain will give him the boost he needs.

We have a world class spinner in Panesar, use him.

Ali can be pushed up to open. He is an opener after all.

Jordan needs work and Stokes is too good a player to be at 8. That ton at Perth wasn't luck and he needs backing. I like the fact he's tried to pitch the ball up more than the others in this test. 2-40 and 3-51 are decent returns for a 4th seamer.

I do think Root should bat above Bell. To me Bell's form has tailed off since his promotion from 5 to 4. Root is an opener it seems silly for him to bat below Bell.

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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #377 on: July 21, 2014, 10:29:08 AM »

To me it's a shame Prior is on the verge of getting dropped and he would be the obvious candidate to me. He's a leader in a team currently devoid of them. Maybe 3 tests as captain will give him the boost he needs.

I agree but to be honest I think his body is giving up on him. Playing through niggles etc is causing his quality of keeping to suffer
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #378 on: July 21, 2014, 10:32:01 AM »

I agree but to be honest I think his body is giving up on him. Playing through niggles etc is causing his quality of keeping to suffer
Think they would waste too many reviews if Prior was skipper, not quite as bad as Monty but I wonder what he is watching sometimes.
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #379 on: July 21, 2014, 11:24:06 AM »

England looking favourites just now. These 2 the key with what's to come
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #380 on: July 21, 2014, 12:30:02 PM »

Interesting debate on TMS as to what the team should look like in the next test.

Buttler for Keeper is the consensus of the team. They are pondering why Alex Hales and Joss Buttler aren't able to play Test Matches given their performances in 50 and 20 over cricket.

They think that if you don't do something about Cook, then its hard to do anything about anyone else.
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #381 on: July 21, 2014, 12:31:21 PM »

Vaughan on the bbc calling for cook to be dropped, and Morgan to bat at six and captain.
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #382 on: July 21, 2014, 12:54:13 PM »

Vaughan on the bbc calling for cook to be dropped, and Morgan to bat at six and captain.

Won't be dropped or kicked out as captain if they win this!
He'll probably be given till the end of the series if they win
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #383 on: July 21, 2014, 01:00:43 PM »

Rather daft shot from prior. Has to be his last innings and has to be dropped!!
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #384 on: July 21, 2014, 01:04:14 PM »

This is the thing with cricket.


While the pulls are going for 4 and 6 it's tremendous batting, but as soon as one goes to hand, it's a shocking shot.


Same with Anderson's reverse sweeps, praised at Trent bridge, but classed as stupid here.


No matter how you play, you'll always upset someone.

Play your own game!
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #385 on: July 21, 2014, 01:08:02 PM »

But that was crap batting!


Cook, and stokes need to be replaced for the next test IMO!
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #386 on: July 21, 2014, 01:09:33 PM »

Idiotic batting this. Prior's last test? Chris Jordan must be looking at this thinking what might have been too
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #387 on: July 21, 2014, 01:11:33 PM »

I'm sorry but this is just poor shot-making.

This is the BEST England can muster?

If I were Morgan, Butler and Jordan, I would be giggling to myself.
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #388 on: July 21, 2014, 01:13:42 PM »

3 short balls 3 wickets. Brilliant batting!!!
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #389 on: July 21, 2014, 01:13:56 PM »

An interesting 5-10 minutes
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