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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #405 on: July 21, 2014, 02:41:31 PM »

A lot of "bring back kp" on twitter.

Now if he was playing for surrey in the 4day game and slapping hundreds for fun. Then maybe.
But he isn't, he is doing pants in the t20 then getting on his helicopter/private jet to fly around the world acting like he's an a lister.

A return to England is not on the cards for him.


Drop cook, prior and stokes for definate currently. Letting the former and alter get some form back elsewhere.


Robson
Carberry/Compton/lyth/lees
Ballance
Bell
Root(c)
Moeen
Buttler
Jordan
Broad
Plunkett
Anderson


If a spinenr is needed go Kerrigan for Jordan or moeen, dependant on how strong you think you need your batting.
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #406 on: July 21, 2014, 02:49:46 PM »

I can't see more than two changes between now and next test.

Keep Cook. 'Rest' Stokes. Explain Prior 'has an injury'. Get in Jordan and Buttler.

Let Cook have the series, or until he has lost it at least.

Having a quick look at the stats on Howstat and (not undated from final day yet) who would have said that

Stokes
Kohli
Cook
Prior
Bell and
Dhawan

Would be 6 of the bottom 7 and all averaging below 20.
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #407 on: July 21, 2014, 03:02:09 PM »

This time last year the gloating was unbearable.

12 months on and English cricket is in disarray.

Ishant Sharma bouncing you out with an 80 over ball??? FMD!!!

Heads must roll.
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #408 on: July 21, 2014, 03:21:59 PM »



Ishant Sharma bouncing you out with an 80 over ball??? FMD!!!



^^^^ This. Even as an Indian supporter, I can't get my head around it.
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #409 on: July 21, 2014, 04:00:27 PM »

^^^^ This. Even as an Indian supporter, I can't get my head around it.

I guess no more green tops for this series  :D
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #410 on: July 21, 2014, 04:13:12 PM »

I guess no more green tops for this series  :D

That's the problem.

England were criminal on the first day in letting India get 290-9 with the ball doing all sorts. 150-200 was par. If India were 150-200 behind, not 30 odd then who knows.

Very sloppy in all areas. We've been spoilt with World class players and a good coach. Now we have neither (yet) and it shows.
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #411 on: July 21, 2014, 04:23:41 PM »

That's the problem.

England were criminal on the first day in letting India get 290-9 with the ball doing all sorts. 150-200 was par. If India were 150-200 behind, not 30 odd then who knows.

Very sloppy in all areas. We've been spoilt with World class players and a good coach. Now we have neither (yet) and it shows.
Sorry to sound like a broken record, but we are very much in a mid-nineties like state. It's horrible to watch, but it will take significant change to get us out of it.
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #412 on: July 21, 2014, 06:06:42 PM »

Sorry but how can Root even be considered for the captaincy?

He was dropped in Sydney for being a liability.

So he scores a couple of 100s at home and now he's the messiah?

Cook should be sacked and dropped. Bell and Prior also need to be axed.

Bring in James Taylor and Kevin Pietersen. Shastri said yesterday India only fear KP out of all their batsmen. That speaks volumes.

Stokes to be replaced by Jordan.

1. Robson
2. Ali
3. Ballance
4. Pietersen(c)
5. Root
6. Taylor
7. Read(w/k)
8. Jordan
9. Plunkett
10. Anderson
11. Kerrigan

Broad's injured so he needs a rest.
England need a spinner and Kerrigan's the one in pole position.
England need a classy glove man and a leader. Read fits the bill.
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #413 on: July 21, 2014, 06:21:55 PM »

Sorry but how can Root even be considered for the captaincy?

He was dropped in Sydney for being a liability.

So he scores a couple of 100s at home and now he's the messiah?

Cook should be sacked and dropped. Bell and Prior also need to be axed.

Bring in James Taylor and Kevin Pietersen. Shastri said yesterday India only fear KP out of all their batsmen. That speaks volumes.

Stokes to be replaced by Jordan.

1. Robson
2. Ali
3. Ballance
4. Pietersen(c)
5. Root
6. Taylor
7. Read(w/k)
8. Jordan
9. Plunkett
10. Anderson
11. Kerrigan

Broad's injured so he needs a rest.
England need a spinner and Kerrigan's the one in pole position.
England need a classy glove man and a leader. Read fits the bill.

Everyone knows that#s far too radical to happen, and anyway Ali looks pretty suspect against anything that isn't a half volley. I don't think Plunkett is that good a bowler anyway, I'd keep Stokes but of those who would swing a new ball with Anderson?

As long as team selection criteria remain old fashioned and rigid, England will suffer. They were lucky to have Swann, Trott, Anderson and Pietersen peaking at the same time. If you look at India, since the stars retired after 2011, selection was changed so that younger players with talent suited to all conditions were given a chance. They looked rough to start (Kohli, Vijay, Rahane and Shami) but given time they've shown they have the potential to be world class.
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #414 on: July 21, 2014, 06:23:59 PM »

That's the problem.

England were criminal on the first day in letting India get 290-9 with the ball doing all sorts. 150-200 was par. If India were 150-200 behind, not 30 odd then who knows.

Very sloppy in all areas. We've been spoilt with World class players and a good coach. Now we have neither (yet) and it shows.

I guess the problem is very basic - inability to take 20 wickets. The current bowling attack, especially the first and second change bowlers are ineffective compared to the one couple of years back. Swann and company would come in and get 2-4 wickets in the middle which is non existent now. this has added to the workload for Anderson and Broad.
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #415 on: July 21, 2014, 06:38:37 PM »


Bring in James Taylor and Kevin Pietersen. Shastri said yesterday India only fear KP out of all their batsmen. That speaks volumes.




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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #416 on: July 21, 2014, 06:51:54 PM »

More character in five tweets than half the England side have shown in four tests.
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #417 on: July 21, 2014, 07:39:52 PM »

We need to mix up the team bring back kp and get in some top performing county players then see who performs best in training and pick them.


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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #418 on: July 21, 2014, 08:02:11 PM »

Prior steps down according to the verdict.
About time he went
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #419 on: July 21, 2014, 08:20:13 PM »

I might be wrong (probably am with the above tweet stream) but I though KP had laid into JT,  snagging him off etc.
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