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[smilley792]

Hmmmm. Not sure ont his. Two many changes, or not enough Changes.


Plunkett should still be in.
Cook should be no where near the ageas bowl.

[El Nino]

I wouldn't have dropped Stokes, he was still contributing well with the ball and was batting at 8 anyway, he's shown he can do it at the level and will find form again. Getting dropped for your batting while you're still contributing with the ball while batting at eight is pretty (No Swearing Please).

[dilscoop]

he was picked over jordon because of his batting, jordan is a better bowler. Jordan is in better form currently...so understandable decision.

[WalkingWicket37]

he was picked over jordon because of his batting, jordan is a better bowler. Jordan is in better form currently...so understandable decision.

Are we on about the same Ben Stokes and Chris Jordan?
Stokes is better than Jordan with the ball, in the field and will come good with the bat, when in form he's again better than Jordan.
Way to shatter the confidence of our best upcoming player.

Plunkett's unlucky to have been dropped too, he's done nothing wrong.

#MooresOut

[joeljonno]

Cook 50. Yeah, he has had a life, but first step back to old self.

Hopefully he can get his old form back full time.

[fros23]

Are we on about the same Ben Stokes and Chris Jordan?
Stokes is better than Jordan with the ball, in the field and will come good with the bat, when in form he's again better than Jordan.
Way to shatter the confidence of our best upcoming player.

Plunkett's unlucky to have been dropped too, he's done nothing wrong.

#MooresOut

Have you watched Jordan in the field?  He has fantastic hands and is a brilliant slip fielder, I have seen him take some quality catches in the slips at domestic and International level

[petehosk]

Stokes and Jordan - there is a bit of debate and Stokes on form will be the stronger batsman, although Jordan is no mug with the bat! Both can bowl and both can field.
But surely it must come down to current form? And Jordan has shown good form with bat and ball, whereas stokes has shown that he is not on form at the moment.

[El Nino]

Have you watched Jordan in the field?  He has fantastic hands and is a brilliant slip fielder, I have seen him take some quality catches in the slips at domestic and International level

He's not suggesting Jordan isn't very good in the field, just that he bleieves Stokes is better.

I've thought Stokes has actually bowled quite well through this series, hasn't had too much luck either. Only Anderson has more wickets for England.

[FattusCattus]

So Jordan for Plunkett then.

[WalkingWicket37]

Have you watched Jordan in the field?  He has fantastic hands and is a brilliant slip fielder, I have seen him take some quality catches in the slips at domestic and International level

Yes I have, and yes Jordan is a brilliant slip fielder, but I feel Stokes offers more in the field in different positions, and think he'll save more round over the course of a test match than Jordan, making him in my mind the better fielder.

So Jordan for Plunkett then.

Plunkett is a genuine strike bowler (and arguably England's best bowler this summer) who has been unfairly dropped.
Stokes is far from the finished article, and may be England's new ball bowler in a few years, but if we needed a wicket I'd rather Plunkett bowl, and if we needed economy, I'd rather see Plunkett bowl.

Stokes is an exciting prospect and he'll (hopefully) be a main contributor in the side for years to come. Dare I say it, I'd 'rest' the undroppable Broad to get him in the side for the next test, and with Jimmy likely to be banned Plunkett will also return.

Or even better Stokes for Woakes, that would make more sense (and could have bought in Jordan for Plunkett today if clueless Peter had to get Jordan in the side).

#MooresOut

[TangoWhiskey]

Stokes is the only bowler who has consistently pitched it up. He also bowled the quickest ball in the last test. Jordan is more of a bang it in bowler. That said stokes was feeling his side a lot in the last match, maybe he has a bit of a niggle?

[WalkingWicket37]

Stokes is the only bowler who has consistently pitched it up. He also bowled the quickest ball in the last test. Jordan is more of a bang it in bowler. That said stokes was feeling his side a lot in the last match, maybe he has a bit of a niggle?

Hadn't noticed that, so maybe that is why he wasn't included today.

I think Jordan has done well in the ODI side, but to me he feels like a poor man's Andrew Flintoff style player in the test side (and not as good with the bat or ball). Would prefer Stokes in the side, but we'll see what Clueless Peter thinks going forward.

#MooresOut

[WalkingWicket37]

Anyway, back to the players who have been selected, 186-1 at tea, Cook 82*, Ballance 72*

England making slow but steady progress, most importantly only 1 down currently, theoretically with a very long batting lineup.

All down to the players so far, not the coach though, so still #MooresOut

[petehosk]

Nobody has hinted or made it clear.....but I do get a nagging 'sixth sense' feeling that a few people want Moores out already?
Its extremely perceptive (some would say psychic) of me!!!

[TangoWhiskey]

If these series were away I'd be prepared to offer more time but I was very proud of England's home record, losing to Sri Lanka at the home of cricket was very distressing!