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[Giraffe208]

Ha ha ha that is quality Tim!

[Gerry SA]

And is so total rubbish in overseas situations that his average against India in India is better than his overall average?

Anderson at home vs IND averages 28
Anderson away vs IND averages 30

[Gerry SA]

I'm not one to blow his trumpet but for you to type away that the bloke has limited talent when he swings the ball both ways at will is ridiculous. Yes he clearly prospers in English conditions but why wouldn't he? He is English and has grown up playing his cricket in this country so why would he learn a style that doesn't benefit where he plays his cricket?

You do say some sense at times but your continual Anderson bashing is incredibly boring. I come on here to read insightful comments, reviews and participate every now and then so unless a comment brings weight to a thread there is no point you recycling the same old comments and opinions every few hours.

Before you respond, at no point and I am suggesting that all the smoke blowing up Anderson from my fellow English participants in this thread are correct but people will support players from the country of their birth so give some credit where it's due. He has so far got 4 wickets in this innings on what is in your words a dead pitch which surely a bowler would find it "tough" to take wickets?

Steyn and Johnson would've have a field day on this pitch...

But then they are world class. 

[joeljonno]

Was number 2 in the world at one point.

[Giraffe208]

Steyn and Johnson would've have a field day on this pitch...

But then they are world class.

So what? they aren't playing and nobody is talking about them so why even bring it onto an Eng v Ind thread? Makes no sense to me.

[Gerry SA]

Was number 2 in the world at one point.

So the first loser yeah?

[tim2000s]

And guess what. Surprisingly enough, Dale Steyn, the he-man of fast bowling, for some unknown reason, also has a worse average away from home than at home. Well stuff me with a stick of Rhubarb and call me boycott's gran's last victim...

Isn't that nearly always the case...

But anyway, back to the match and the third innings is kicked off by Cook and Robson. With the bowling as it was, should England have stayed in the field?

[Giraffe208]

Anderson at home vs IND averages 28
Anderson away vs IND averages 30

The original post suggested that his average AWAY v INDIA was BETTER than his OVERALL average.

So with an overall average of 30.46 and with an average of 29.82 away v India, the original comment was correct and didn't really need the wrong statistics putting forward?

[uknsaunders]

Most wickets
Player   Span   Mat   Inns   Balls   Runs   Wkts   BBI   BBM   Ave   Econ   SR   5   10
M Muralitharan (ICC/SL)   1992-2010   133   230   44039   18180   800   9/51   16/220   22.72   2.47   55.0   67   22
SK Warne (Aus)   1992-2007   145   273   40705   17995   708   8/71   12/128   25.41   2.65   57.4   37   10
A Kumble (India)   1990-2008   132   236   40850   18355   619   10/74   14/149   29.65   2.69   65.9   35   8
GD McGrath (Aus)   1993-2007   124   243   29248   12186   563   8/24   10/27   21.64   2.49   51.9   29   3
CA Walsh (WI)   1984-2001   132   242   30019   12688   519   7/37   13/55   24.44   2.53   57.8   22   3
N Kapil Dev (India)   1978-1994   131   227   27740   12867   434   9/83   11/146   29.64   2.78   63.9   23   2
Sir RJ Hadlee (NZ)   1973-1990   86   150   21918   9611   431   9/52   15/123   22.29   2.63   50.8   36   9
SM Pollock (SA)   1995-2008   108   202   24353   9733   421   7/87   10/147   23.11   2.39   57.8   16   1
Wasim Akram (Pak)   1985-2002   104   181   22627   9779   414   7/119   11/110   23.62   2.59   54.6   25   5
Harbhajan Singh (India)   1998-2013   101   186   28293   13372   413   8/84   15/217   32.37   2.83   68.5   25   5
CEL Ambrose (WI)   1988-2000   98   179   22103   8501   405   8/45   11/84   20.99   2.30   54.5   22   3
M Ntini (SA)   1998-2009   101   190   20834   11242   390   7/37   13/132   28.82   3.23   53.4   18   4
IT Botham (Eng)   1977-1992   102   168   21815   10878   383   8/34   13/106   28.40   2.99   56.9   27   4
MD Marshall (WI)   1978-1991   81   151   17584   7876   376   7/22   11/89   20.94   2.68   46.7   22   4
DW Steyn (SA)   2004-2014   74   140   15711   8560   375   7/51   11/60   22.82   3.26   41.8   23   5
Waqar Younis (Pak)   1989-2003   87   154   16224   8788   373   7/76   13/135   23.56   3.25   43.4   22   5
JM Anderson (Eng)   2003-2014   97*   180   21742   11140   369   7/43   11/71   30.18   3.07   58.9   16   2
Imran Khan (Pak)   1971-1992   88   142   19458   8258   362   8/58   14/116   22.81   2.54   53.7   23   6

[Giraffe208]

So the first loser yeah?

Mitchell Johnson has only ever reached number 2 aswell hasn't he? So surely a first loser can't be world class?

[uknsaunders]

Yep that Kumble must of been rubbish averaging 29.65, mostly taking wickets at home. Wasn't a great bowler at all. Ntini must of been average as well. Harbhajan Singh was terrible.

Greatness is a combination of factors. Anybody who gets up to 300+ test wickets deserves some credit.

[Gerry SA]

The original post suggested that his average AWAY v INDIA was BETTER than his OVERALL average.

So with an overall average of 30.46 and with an average of 29.82 away v India, the original comment was correct and didn't really need the wrong statistics putting forward?

Dunno what stats you're on about...

Anderson has 71 Test wickets vs IND @ 28.92

Tests at Home:
49 Test wickets @ 28.53 with 3x5WH

Tests in IND:
22 Test wickets @ 30.25 with 0x5WH

Stats are correct.

[Gerry SA]

Yep that Kumble must of been rubbish averaging 29.65, mostly taking wickets at home. Wasn't a great bowler at all. Ntini must of been average as well. Harbhajan Singh was terrible.

Greatness is a combination of factors. Anybody who gets up to 300+ test wickets deserves some credit.

Kumble played in an Indian side with pathetic seam bowlers. So outside India opponents just sat on him trying now to give him wickets.

Harbhajan and Anderson are the worst to reach 300/400 wickets. 

[Gerry SA]

Ntini 'average'?

390 wickets @ 28. For most of his career bowling 145/150kph.

[Sam]

Dunno what stats you're on about...

Anderson has 71 Test wickets vs IND @ 28.92

Tests at Home:
49 Test wickets @ 28.53 with 3x5WH

Tests in IND:
22 Test wickets @ 30.25 with 0x5WH

Stats are correct.

656/22 = 29.82