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Gerry SA

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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #600 on: July 30, 2014, 11:04:22 AM »
Quote from: procricket B3 on July 30, 2014, 10:59:01 AM
YOU HAVE THE BEST SIDE IN THE WORLD THE BEST BATTERS AND THE BEST BOWLERS AND THE BEST BILLTONG AS WELL THERE CAN WE MOVE ON.

Do you know a bloke called JEET by any chance.

As for a the game i think it is a great test and England are fighting back.

2 decent sides going for it.

At the current time there is no vintage side in world cricket non that will be remembered for being great.

Anderson is a world class swing bowler there can be no doubt it.
Here's the problem I have with term 'world class'

I'll use boxing as it's easier to explain.

Floyd Mayweather is world class. Pretty much no weaknesses.

Whereas Amir Khan can has displays of being 'world class' but can also get sparked out. So he has many weaknesses.

Anderson is a quality bowler, but calling him 'world class' is just wrong.
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #601 on: July 30, 2014, 11:06:06 AM »
Cook and Robson aside i think numbers 3-10 are all capable of giving it a biff for England. Whether they will or not though....

Would be nice to see them get inventive with the batting order
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #602 on: July 30, 2014, 11:08:16 AM »
A lead of 375 should be enough, if India couldn't score that many on a day 2/3 pitch then they shouldn't on a day 4/5 pitch!
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #603 on: July 30, 2014, 11:12:33 AM »
Robsons position appears to be in danger at the moment.
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #604 on: July 30, 2014, 11:17:54 AM »
World class is at the time though and agaist what you come against he was ranked 2 in the world the clue is in the wording.

You can only be as good as what you play against...
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #605 on: July 30, 2014, 11:24:06 AM »
Quote from: tim2000s on July 30, 2014, 11:00:11 AM
There was some comment about Buttler going straight into the nets, so they may have decided to send him out at three or four, depending on match position. Bell also has to wait some time before he can bat due to his time away yesterday, so that may have an impact on batting order.

From what I've heard there's no restrictions on the batting order because of Bells injury.
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #606 on: July 30, 2014, 11:30:16 AM »
Famous last words but Cooks footwork looks so much better so far.
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #607 on: July 30, 2014, 11:54:23 AM »
Quote from: Sam on July 30, 2014, 11:24:06 AM
From what I've heard there's no restrictions on the batting order because of Bells injury.

I think that time out the game only applies either during that day or during that innings (cant remember which  - but it is probably a bit of both, i.e. bell couldn't have batted last night if england had got in, but hte 'clock' resets for today).
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #608 on: July 30, 2014, 11:57:43 AM »
There is a point where you can play with the order and a time when you shouldn't because you could end up getting bowled out cheaply.

At 300 ahead, you are fairly safe in the mixing up of the order, although I wouldn't be too keen to mix it up too much.  Bell at 4 and maybe move Buttler up to 5, but Root and Ali can get on with it as well.
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #609 on: July 30, 2014, 11:57:55 AM »
Quote from: golden duck on July 30, 2014, 11:54:23 AM
I think that time out the game only applies either during that day or during that innings (cant remember which  - but it is probably a bit of both, i.e. bell couldn't have batted last night if england had got in, but hte 'clock' resets for today).

Na, apparently it's something to do with the injury either occurring off field or being visually noticeable, not sure which as I wasn't watching.
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #610 on: July 30, 2014, 12:02:50 PM »
GB stiffed again
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #611 on: July 30, 2014, 12:06:06 PM »
Quote from: Cedrictoad on July 30, 2014, 12:02:50 PM
GB stiffed again

The umpiring in this match and series without drs is genuinely dreadful twice now ballance has been done over, we need drs in this series if the Indians don't like it then tough
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #612 on: July 30, 2014, 12:22:03 PM »
Yeah I would have batted again. Right decision. The pitch is drying out and deteriorating from what I've seen but there is still a chance India could build a lead. You knock out a quick fire 200/250 runs and you put all the pressure on India, if they start to take risks and they don't pay off they will lose. It would be very hard for them to do anything other than block out, so right call for me.

Also hopefully Cook will get some more runs and that will only help him get right back into form, plus bowlers get a nice rest.
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #613 on: July 30, 2014, 12:24:17 PM »
Quote from: Marc28 on July 30, 2014, 12:06:06 PM
The umpiring in this match and series without drs is genuinely dreadful twice now ballance has been done over, we need drs in this series if the Indians don't like it then tough

Say bye bye to any thoughts using DRS with India any time soon ,

ECB should have thought twice about these things before going in to bed with BCCI to create 'BIG 3'.

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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #614 on: July 30, 2014, 12:38:54 PM »
re bell batting

from the icc playing conditions;

the player shall not be permitted to bat unless or until, in the aggregate, he has returned to the field and/or his side’s innings has been in progress for at least that length of playing time for which he has been absent or, if earlier, when his side has lost five wickets. The restriction in clauses 2.2.1 and 2.2.2 above shall not apply if the player has suffered an external blow (as opposed to an internal injury such as a pulled muscle) whilst participating earlier in the
match and consequently been forced to leave the field. Nor shall it apply if the player has been absent for very exceptional and wholly acceptable reasons (other than injury or illness).

So it does sound like it carries over - but because it was a blow to Bell's thumb & therefore an external injury it doesn't count as being timed out by the sounds of it.
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