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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #765 on: August 07, 2014, 04:50:58 PM »

Bowlers go for more runs nowadays, which makes Steyn's figures even more remarkable.  However, Steyn doesn't have a monopoly on being deemed a worldy.  He probably would in most eras and is a once in a generation bowler.

But that doesn't mean Anderson isn't world class.  He's not in Steyn's class, but is top 3 - if that's not world class, by definition I don't know what is.  You don't fluke 370+ test wickets, with the biggest workload of any bowler in world cricket.  PLus he's sent Tendulkar back to the hutch more times than any other bowler  ;)
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #766 on: August 07, 2014, 04:54:28 PM »

Bowlers go for more runs nowadays, which makes Steyn's figures even more remarkable.  However, Steyn doesn't have a monopoly on being deemed a worldy.  He probably would in most eras and is a once in a generation bowler.

But that doesn't mean Anderson isn't world class.  He's not in Steyn's class, but is top 3 - if that's not world class, by definition I don't know what is.  You don't fluke 370+ test wickets, with the biggest workload of any bowler in world cricket.  PLus he's sent Tendulkar back to the hutch more times than any other bowler  ;)
Does that make Jimmy the worlds best clubbie then??  ;)
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #767 on: August 07, 2014, 04:54:45 PM »

It's funny how you English guys maintain mediocrity as being world class.

Aside from the usual suspects Steyn, Harris, Philander and Johnson

There are plenty of bowlers with averages less than 30 currently playing.

Tim Southee
Trent Boult
Kemar Roach
Junaid Khan
Steven Finn
James Pattinson

Roach and Khan, in particular play on pretty docile pitches.
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #768 on: August 07, 2014, 04:55:57 PM »

Bowlers go for more runs nowadays, which makes Steyn's figures even more remarkable.  However, Steyn doesn't have a monopoly on being deemed a worldy.  He probably would in most eras and is a once in a generation bowler.

But that doesn't mean Anderson isn't world class.  He's not in Steyn's class, but is top 3 - if that's not world class, by definition I don't know what is.  You don't fluke 370+ test wickets, with the biggest workload of any bowler in world cricket.  PLus he's sent Tendulkar back to the hutch more times than any other bowler  ;)
Top 3? Who you kidding?

Steyn
Harris
Johnson
Philander

That's the elite group.
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #769 on: August 07, 2014, 04:56:58 PM »

It's funny how you English guys maintain mediocrity as being world class.

Aside from the usual suspects Steyn, Harris, Philander and Johnson

There are plenty of bowlers with averages less than 30 currently playing.

Tim Southee
Trent Boult
Kemar Roach
Junaid Khan
Steven Finn

Roach and Khan, in particular play on pretty docile pitches.
No Gerry, we're taking the piss out of you by keep quoting your figure of sub 30 making someone world class mate!  :D
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #770 on: August 07, 2014, 05:33:10 PM »

We weren't the ones who claimed he would be world class  :o.
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #771 on: August 07, 2014, 05:38:05 PM »

Yeah, yeah, yeah.....

I think my exact words where 'no bowler with an average above 30 can be deemed works class'

Anderson might average 29.97, but he's along way short of world class.

Similar to Tim Southee, fine young bowler, but some way to go until he's world class.
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #772 on: August 07, 2014, 05:43:52 PM »

Love watching Anderson. He's world class that kid.
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #773 on: August 07, 2014, 05:47:26 PM »

Can I ask you Gerry, if you were picking the England team what would it look like  :)?
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #774 on: August 07, 2014, 05:55:11 PM »

Love watching Anderson. He's world class that kid.
James Anderson is as world class as Wayne Rooney eg not very world class.
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #775 on: August 07, 2014, 05:59:18 PM »

Can I ask you Gerry, if you were picking the England team what would it look like  :)?
Carberry(poor lad should never been chopped)
Cook
Bell
Root
Ballance
Buttler
Stokes
Broad
Finn
Clubman
Panesar

If Carberry isn't deemed good enough. Id pick Lyth. Very good player.
Panesar is the best spinner in England. I don't care what's he's going of the field.
Ali is average.
Stokes is a potential worldie.
Finn is the most talented bowler in England.

Jordan and Woakes aren't good enough.
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #776 on: August 07, 2014, 06:00:57 PM »

Carberry(poor lad should never been chopped)
Cook
Bell
Root
Ballance
Buttler
Stokes
Broad
Finn
Clubman
Panesar

If Carberry isn't deemed good enough. Id pick Lyth. Very good player.
Panesar is the best spinner in England. I don't care what's he's going of the field.
Ali is average.
Stokes is a potential worldie.
Finn is the most talented bowler in England.

Jordan and Woakes aren't good enough.
Bell at 3 & Ballance at 5??  ???

Ballance 3, Bell 4, Root 5 IMO

Stokes has to be in the side, brightest prospect in English cricket, so Jordan to go.
Not sure about Monty in the side any more, maybe a Rashid/Borthwick player who can bat a bit.

Finn, Jimmy & Monty is a long tail!
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #777 on: August 07, 2014, 06:05:58 PM »


Bell at 3 & Ballance at 5??  ???

Ballance 3, Bell 4, Root 5 IMO

Stokes has to be in the side, brightest prospect in English cricket, so Jordan to go.
Not sure about Monty in the side any more, maybe a Rashid/Borthwick player who can bat a bit.

Ballance bats 5/6 for Yorkshire...
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #778 on: August 07, 2014, 06:06:56 PM »

Ballance bats 5/6 for Yorkshire...
He's batted very well at 3 for England though, and Bell hasn't really come good batting at 3.
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Re: England Vs India
« Reply #779 on: August 07, 2014, 06:07:37 PM »

Bell at 3 & Ballance at 5??  ???

Ballance 3, Bell 4, Root 5 IMO

Stokes has to be in the side, brightest prospect in English cricket, so Jordan to go.
Not sure about Monty in the side any more, maybe a Rashid/Borthwick player who can bat a bit.
Monty has 150+ Test poles. Man can bowl.

Ballance isn't a #3, he's feasted on these weak attacks SL and India have served up. He will be exposed by Southee, Boult, Johnson & co next year.
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