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[Gerry SA]

Tendulkar past his peak in 2006, nobody told me 

http://www.espncricinfo.com/india-v-england-2012/content/story/597131.html

And the other 8 times...

Yeah as I said Tendulkar was passed it...

If you want to see Tendulkar getting dominated look no further than Australia's Glenn McGrath.

[petehosk]

Guys - Gerry has it in his head that Jimmy is a very ordinary bowler.
There is nothing anyone can do to change that opinion! When Jimmy bowls with incredible control, swinging it both ways, and bowling unplayable balls, it will be the conditions or the statistics of the number of balls that left the factory that day!
And when he doesn't take wickets then statistics prove he's a clubman!

What I'm saying is that everyone has their opinion and Gerry isn't going to change his!
So rather than keep making remarks, just accept that we all have our opinion!
And this goes both ways! If someone wants to say that jimmy is World class, the Gerry needs to politely disagree but realise that everyone has their opinion and is entitled to it!!

[procricket]

What happend to Brett Shultz a star in the making then bosh ??

[Buzz]

And that most due to a one off Test effort in 2008, where he took 6 wickets in Mumbai.

you can't just pick and choose stats that suit you!!!!
Otherwise you would only look at Andersons stats from 2008 to 2014 - during which time he has 312 wickets at 28.1

As we are playing select the stats - during the time we have seen the biggest improvements in bats - i.e. from around 2008 to the current day and the proliferation of dead flat lifeless tracks...

[Gerry SA]

you can't just pick and choose stats that suit you!!!!
Otherwise you would only look at Andersons stats from 2008 to 2014 - during which time he has 312 wickets at 28.1

As we are playing select the stats - during the time we have seen the biggest improvements in bats - i.e. from around 2008 to the current day and the proliferation of dead flat lifeless tracks...

You mean Anderson average was boosted by the tainted Pakistan series? Where they were match fixing?

[Gerry SA]

The master of cheap freebie runs, Ian Bell, falls to the ever willing Bhuvneshwar Kumar. Kumar also nabbed Chris Jordan, albeit Jordan was out to a stunning catch.

140/5. 

[FattusCattus]

Oh Ian!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is why people on here moan about you doing half a job! another pretty score without going on. Tut!

[tim2000s]

That was a very good delivery though from Kumar. Give credit to the bowler for that!

[Gerry SA]

Moeen Ali cleaned up by V Aaron.

170/6.

Lead of 18

[Gerry SA]

Moeen isn't Test quality.

[FattusCattus]

I have to say - as much as I love the guy, I am coming to that conclusion too with Moeen. He's not getting any runs, and he does seem to be getting out to the short ball a lot.

Sure his spinning is what everyone is talking about - but ultimately he his supposed to be a batter who gets a few wickets.

Dependant on how this test goes, it may be time to look at swapping Stokes for Ali and seeing if he can get a few runs second time around, and putting in a proper spinner for Woakes / Jordan.

That proper spinner could be any of Kerrigan / Tredders / Batty / Riley.

we've got to give ourselves the best chance to win the series.

[Sam]

Moeen isn't Test quality.

That 100 he got however did look absolutely class in my opinion, independent of the situation it was in. I think he deserves the final test minimum personally. My personal belief is any spinner we bring into the side wont get many/any more wickets than him anyway so he's worth keeping in for now.

[petehosk]

That 100 he got however did look absolutely class in my opinion, independent of the situation it was in. I think he deserves the final test minimum personally. My personal belief is any spinner we bring into the side wont get many/any more wickets than him anyway so he's worth keeping in for now.

But your opinion is not worthy! Gerry has the only opinion worthy of a mention! 

[Twelfth Man]

Stick with Ali until the end of the summer Test schedule. Give County spinners the rest of the season to get overs under their belt, re-evaluate the situation and get a couple involved with the set up and ready for next year. Kerrigan and Riley most probably? Would love Rashid to get a chance, strictly down to enjoying watching leggies bowl.. and he can hold a bat.

Not saying Ali is to be kicked out after this summer though! He hasn't been that bad!!!

[MD2812]

Shane Warne might be 'the greatest spinner ever' but Tendulkar, Laxman and Dravid where pretty handy...

Anderson averages 29 in India? Hardly the stats of a world beater. And that most due to a one off Test effort in 2008, where he took 6 wickets in Mumbai.

But 29 is below the world class line of 30?!?