Topic: Disillusionment with cricket (Read 14772 times)

procricket · « **Reply #45 on:** August 15, 2014, 11:35:56 AM »

I broke my thumb two months ago played 1 game and re broke.

I'm moving house very soon and will be netting 4 times a week i want to play so badly got a few new sticks to use and can't wait October is my start at Dotball

Seniorplayer · « **Reply #46 on:** August 15, 2014, 04:44:46 PM »

Quote from: philharr on August 15, 2014, 11:23:46 AM

Got to say a lot of the posts here sound very familiar! I'm really questioning if I want to play next year. My team are leading the league and hopefully we will get promotion but personally I am having a shocker of a year and am wondering if it is worth turning out next year. Not managed a score above 35 so far and think I should be doing so much better. To top it all off I dropped an absolute sitter at the weekend whilst fielding (luckily didn't cost us too much in runs). Beginning to dread Saturdays!

Not sure whether I should look at some 1 to 1 coaching over the winter to see if I can improve or to just sit the next season out and see whether my love/passion for cricket comes back.

I guess it comes down to what you get from playing and what matters most to you is it about your own performance or for exsample being with team mates getting to talk cricket with like minded people having a beer a break from the daily grind etc.

Cumbrian Pete · « **Reply #47 on:** August 18, 2014, 11:59:46 AM »

1-2-1 coaching has done wonders for my game and stopped me from quitting. In my view, disillusionment with the game usually comes with poor form, if you're blazing centuries or taking hatfuls of wickets then the game is still generally enjoyable even if your team mates may not be the best company. I would definitely give coaching a go, a two or three hour session with a good coach is worth a season of club nets.

Seniorplayer · « **Reply #48 on:** August 18, 2014, 12:59:53 PM »

Quote from: Cumbrian Pete on August 18, 2014, 11:59:46 AM

1-2-1 coaching has done wonders for my game and stopped me from quitting. In my view, disillusionment with the game usually comes with poor form, if you're blazing centuries or taking hatfuls of wickets then the game is still generally enjoyable even if your team mates may not be the best company. I would definitely give coaching a go, a two or three hour session with a good coach is worth a season of club nets.

Excellent advice - also pleased to read you are going to continue to play.

Cumbrian Pete · « **Reply #49 on:** August 18, 2014, 03:03:54 PM »

My pleasure, Senior Player, glad to be of help. I couldn't buy a run last season and Saturdays were not fun. This year, I'm contributing with the bat and my keeping has improved too and I'm planning on playing on for a few more years. Good luck with the coaching, finding a good coach is key, which part of the country are you in?

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #50 on:** August 18, 2014, 03:05:35 PM »

Loads of bad qualified coaches around so getting a good one is the key.

Seniorplayer · « **Reply #51 on:** August 18, 2014, 03:09:40 PM »

Quote from: Cumbrian Pete on August 18, 2014, 03:03:54 PM

My pleasure, Senior Player, glad to be of help. I couldn't buy a run last season and Saturdays were not fun. This year, I'm contributing with the bat and my keeping has improved too and I'm planning on playing on for a few more years. Good luck with the coaching, finding a good coach is key, which part of the country are you in?

I live in Stourbridge and play in the Worcester county league.

Seniorplayer · « **Reply #52 on:** August 18, 2014, 04:17:36 PM »

Quote from: ProCricketer1982 on August 18, 2014, 03:05:35 PM

Loads of bad qualified coaches around so getting a good one is the key.

You are right although having retired and no longer involved in coaching one of the problems is there is to much theory and over coaching to the detriment of natural ability.

Cumbrian Pete · « **Reply #53 on:** August 18, 2014, 04:21:27 PM »

...You could try Gary Palmer the ex-Somerset player. I had a session with him a few years ago and found him excellent. He was workign at Ripley School, not sure if he's still there but you should be able to find him on the internet.

I now see Matt at the Cricket Asylum near Leeds but that is a bit of travel from the midlands.

The other option may be Paul Aldred, master bat maker on here and also a coach. He's in Derbyshire. I'm not sure if he does 1-2-1 coaching but worth an ask. He may have a recommendation if nothing else. I've met Paul and I would think that he would be a very personable coach who would keep things simple.

Buzz · « **Reply #54 on:** November 19, 2014, 08:18:37 AM »

seems as if there are loads of people frustrated with cricket these days...

Social game suffers huge loss of appeal
Richard Hobson
Last updated November 19 2014 12:01AM

There were 64,000 fewer recreational cricketers this year than last, though, the ECB feels it now has a �clearer picture� to help it to engage more players
Stephen Bardens/Alamy
Exclusive
Statistics circulated to county cricket boards by the ECB show that participation in the recreational game has fallen by 64,000 over the past year, with more than 5 per cent of games being conceded because at least one team cannot field a side.
The comprehensive results of the annual National Playing Survey, seen by The Times, reveal that the number of players aged between 14 and 65 dropped from 908,000 in 2013 to 844,000 this summer.
Almost two fifths (39 per cent) of southern Asians who said that they would like to play more felt that what is on offer at present does not work for them, against 22 per cent for the rest. Thirty-five per cent of women wanting to play said that cricket was not available.
The ECB has begun a detailed review after nearly 40,000 people, including almost 9,000 lapsed players, responded to the survey, well up on the returns for 2013. Evidence suggests that there is an appetite for shorter games and additional matches in April and September.
More than one in four respondents (26 per cent) who would like to play more said that cricket was simply not on offer. The report says: �Cricket availability and time prevent younger players and females playing more. The current offer is a particular problem for South Asian players.�
Although the ECB has kept it away from general release, a number of the 39 boards representing the first-class and minor counties have leaked select details. The Northamptonshire Cricket Board website said that �to have more than one in every 20 cricket matches not happening due to lack of players should be a huge concern�.
In partial mitigation, Met Office figures show only 24 dry days across the first 17 weeks of the season, against 30 in 2013. There is minor comfort for the ECB in a rise in satisfaction levels among those who do play from 7.2 out of ten last year to 7.8 this time. Happiest players were those aged 14-15, with the greatest dissatisfaction among �cameo�, �occasional� and the 19-25 groupings.
However, as well as the rise in conceded games, the first 18 weeks of the 2014 season featured a 13 per cent decrease in fixtures being played, and 11 per cent of matches being cancelled, almost three times up on 2013. Although the 2005 Ashes success prompted a big increase in recreational players, there is no reliable data on the overall decline since, because of the ECB�s new method of compiling figures.
The ECB said that it �recognised the participation challenges that have been facing all team sports� and introduced the survey last year to understand better what drives grassroots involvement.
The ECB now has �a much clearer picture than ever before of who plays recreational cricket, what type of cricket they prefer to play and when they want to play it. We are now setting about finding ways in which we can best address their needs going forward.
�We are already working in partnership with our county boards as part of a detailed participation review to tackle key factors which affect participation, such as match end time, travel distance to matches, playing format, length of game and club/school links.�
Engaging the Asian community has been an issue to vex the authorities for many years. It manifested itself with the booing of Moeen Ali when he played for England against India at Edgbaston in September, just a few miles from his Birmingham home. As recently as last week, Ali spoke about players being lost to the game.
The ECB said that it has launched �a programme of engagement and development with South Asian communities, which has been backed up by capital and revenue investment in five major cities with a high South Asian population�.
Results do not appear to have surprised the counties. Mick Glenn, the senior cricket manager of Derbyshire Cricket Board, believes that the game has suffered �a drip effect� in his county, with long games unappealing for young players making the transition to adult cricket. �If they move from 20 overs to 40 or 50, that is the difference from playing in an evening, say, and taking up a whole afternoon on a weekend,� he said.
Peter Hybart, the chief executive of Cricket Wales, said: �Recruitment of youngsters is as strong as ever and then, like all sports, there is a drop-off from around 15 onwards. That has started to impact on our seniors at fourth, third or second-team levels. The challenge is to keep those from 15 to 25.
�It is linked to changing lifestyles and people trying individual activities, which they can do whenever they like instead of needing a whole team. We are not talking about talented guys on a county pathway, it is the ones who swing across the line but enjoy themselves.�
Surveying the scene
47 per cent want to play more but do not have time
27 per cent could play more but cricket on offer does not suit them
70 per cent of women want to play in September but do not have games
16 per cent unhappy with distance travelled to games
27 per cent dissatisfied with finishing times
Words by Richard Hobson

roco · « **Reply #55 on:** November 19, 2014, 08:28:32 AM »

good read, I wish all the boards would release the findings as would be enlightening to read

jwebber86 · « **Reply #56 on:** November 19, 2014, 08:59:59 AM »

just have to wait and see what weird and wonderful ideas they come up with now.

i would say the surveys sums up most of the cricket people i know quite well

uknsaunders · « **Reply #57 on:** November 19, 2014, 09:54:28 AM »

I wonder if the ECB suppressed anything to do with cricket not being on free to air tv? Can't believe that isn't a reason.

Do I get a gold star for pointing out more cricket should be played in September, before the survey came out? I'm sure I'm cheaper to hire than the ECB staff doing this

http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=31782.0

FattusCattus · « **Reply #58 on:** November 19, 2014, 10:05:55 AM »

"27 per cent could play more but cricket on offer does not suit them"

What does this actually mean? what doesn't suit them?

roco · « **Reply #59 on:** November 19, 2014, 10:23:26 AM »

they don't like the start or finish times or days its on

here is what our league have released so far

Shropshire Cricket
Board Bulletin Snapshot
The Official Home of Cricket in Shropshire
www.shropshirecricketboard.co.uk
National Playing Survey 2014 Update
The National Playing Survey (NPS) was launched in June 2014 to reach as far and as wide as possible to receive views on those playing the game, those who have lapsed and those following the game at a local level
Key Figures Nationally from 2014:

�   37,586 total responses � up 77% on 2013
�   26,206 player responses � up 83% on 2013
�   8,735 lapsed player responses � up 60% on 2013
�    Responses from �hard-to-reach� segments of the market have significantly increased e.g. Occasional players, Women and Girls and South Asian players
�   Conceded games have increased 62% from 2010 - 2014
�   27% of players are dissatisfied with end times of matches

Key Figures Locally (background):
These are our figures taken from the National Playing Survey data which was captured and calculated by the England & Wales Cricket Board (ECB) in 2013
�   15,059 play the game annually in Shropshire
�   4528 are - CORE PLAYERS ( play 12 times a year or more)
�   7231 are � OCASSIONAL PLAYERS (4-11 times a year)
�   3300 are � CAMEO PLAYERS (less than 4 games a year)
�   Peak month � July, Lowest month November

Key Figures Locally 2014 from NPS
�   Shropshire contributed 817 survey responses which was 2.2% of the national figure and 5.4% of the counties total cricket player participation which was higher than the national average 606 responses were from current players of which 473 came from the Shropshire County Cricket League.

A Snap Shot of feedback of Cricket in Shropshire vs National feedback
The left hand column in each section is percentages from Shropshire Survey Respondents. The right hand column in each section is National percentages.
Snapshot on a page
(A collection of useful statistics from the dashboard)
How many players�      How satisfied players are�
How many people play cricket?
(Total Market Size ONLY)         What is the overall satisfaction score of cricketers?   8.0   7.8
What is the most popular other sport played by cricketers?   Football
52%   Football 47%
What is the Net Promoter Score?
(% of Promoters-% of Detractors)   54%   48%
How many cricketers attend International fixtures?   71%   72%
How many cricketers would like to play more?   64%   68%
How many cricketers attend Domestics fixtures?   53%   60%
Satisfaction levels of game day factors? 91% 89%
Challenging Opposition 84% 82%
Spirit of the Game 68% 90%
Travel Distance 88% 84%
Pitch Quality Umpire Quality 75% 65%

On game day, what players think�
What is the average    All Market Segments cost of a season?   �286   �304
What is the average cost breakdown?
Equipment �134 �137
Membership �42 �59
Match Fees (Per Match) �7 �7
Travel Costs (Per Match)   �7 �7

How many cricketers are enjoying playing cricket more now than last season?   40%   40%

Things to watch out for�

How many cricketers say cost is a barrier to playing?   17% 28%
How many cricketers are happy with the format they play?   90%   88%
How many cricketers say they struggle to balance cricket with other commitments?   49% 49%
How many cricketers are happy with the time their matches start?   85%   79%
What is the average age people start playing cricket?   12 11
How many cricketers are happy with the time their matches end?   79%   73%
How many cricketers are planning to NOT play next season?   1% 1%
Other useful things�
How many cricketers have had formal coaching in the last 2 years? 35%    42%
How many value coaching as a means to developing skills? 84%   84%

Overall Satisfaction   Selection   8.0   National   7.8
Net Promoter Score   Selection   54% National   48%
Want to Play More Cricket Selection   64% National   68%

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