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Re: the stuart broad incident
« Reply #30 on: August 09, 2014, 08:27:41 PM »

2 things.
1. we don't know how much worse it would have been in a different lid.
2. we don't know if he was wearing it properly, did put the lid on right, I.e. strap first then inflate and had he played with the settings on the grille too.

still it seems a pretty bad incident.
I think he used a PremTek so wouldn't have to worry about inflating it.

And would not tightening the chin strap reduce the chance of a ball getting through, at it would be able to move so the impact would move the lid as well as the ball continuing to travel, rather than if it was anchored and the grille/peak gap took the full impact of the ball without any give.
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Re: the stuart broad incident
« Reply #31 on: August 09, 2014, 08:51:25 PM »

Well, well, well...a fast medium pie thrower has penetrated the grill of the "world safest helmet" at only 86mph?

If that was Mitchell Johnson or Dale Steyn bowling, Broad would be in a coma now being read his last rites.

But it passed all Ayrteks "internal testing" I keep hearing the ECCB apologists on here bleat.

I am sorry, but your protectionist scam has been exposed. The BS claims that Ayrtek are the safest blah, blah, freakin blah have been proven to be propaganda.

I await with bated breath the excuses that will surely be thrown up as to why this remarkable British product that like the Titanic was "unsinkable", failed so spectacularly under mundane circumstances.


As soon as I herd Broad got hit in the face I just knew you would be all over it like a rash :D
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Re: the stuart broad incident
« Reply #32 on: August 09, 2014, 08:57:26 PM »

Can the grills on these aditeks be altered?
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Re: the stuart broad incident
« Reply #33 on: August 09, 2014, 09:02:05 PM »

Can the grills on these aditeks be altered?
They can indeed.
Maybe going forward they shouldn't be adjustable, or only have kids and adults settings on the grille to avoid things like this happening.
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Re: the stuart broad incident
« Reply #34 on: August 09, 2014, 09:05:38 PM »

The design is to stop the ball going through on all settings on the ayrtek

That was part of the other design faults on said  other helmets.

If you look at the new masuri and GN they are fixed points.

I see Buzz point but it seems the strength of the Peak kept the ball in so the weakest point was the grill ???
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Re: the stuart broad incident
« Reply #35 on: August 09, 2014, 09:09:27 PM »

Without a helmet he would be in a bad way, now he just has a broken nose so the helmet did it's job .. Sort of
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Re: the stuart broad incident
« Reply #36 on: August 09, 2014, 09:11:07 PM »

Perhaps the piece flying off, which looked like a black bit from under the peak allowed the ball enough room to wiggle through?

Any potential difference if he had been wearing the carbon model?

You can do all the testing you want but you can't recreate match conditions, every ball is different!
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Re: the stuart broad incident
« Reply #37 on: August 09, 2014, 09:12:26 PM »

Without a helmet he would be in a bad way, now he just has a broken nose so the helmet did it's job .. Sort of
I've just gone from AdiTek back to old masuri, on the evidence today it doesn't make a huge difference either way as the ball still gets through!
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Re: the stuart broad incident
« Reply #38 on: August 09, 2014, 09:15:14 PM »

I've watched the video a couple of times and it's definitely not front on,  like the new tests. I'm sure Ayrtek will be all over it,  because ,  well,  they have to.

Looking at it objectively,  the two things that occur to me are that:

1. Off a top edge,  the ball is spinning violently.

2. The ball seems to pass through very easily.

The best guess I can come up with is that in these circumstances,  either one or the other of the ball or helmet /grill combination has momentarily deformed.

As Dave has said,  the standards and a helmet go only so far.  They are better than nothing,  but 100% protection is highly unlikely.

Let's wait for the Ayrtek review....

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Re: the stuart broad incident
« Reply #39 on: August 09, 2014, 09:17:33 PM »

Would a masuri fielding grille style work on a batting helmet to avoid things like this happening potentially work??
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Re: the stuart broad incident
« Reply #40 on: August 09, 2014, 09:22:14 PM »

I happen to notice a lot of other pro (jos buttler for example) have either changed the grille or adapted it to only have one bar in front of the face on the new style masuri rendering that "less safe" also
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Re: the stuart broad incident
« Reply #41 on: August 09, 2014, 09:25:38 PM »

I happen to notice a lot of other pro (jos buttler for example) have either changed the grille or adapted it to only have one bar in front of the face on the new style masuri rendering that "less safe" also

The ones using the masuri without the double grill are using the model down. The grills are not interchangeable
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Re: the stuart broad incident
« Reply #42 on: August 09, 2014, 09:26:35 PM »

If I were Tom I'd be in the car in the morning trying to get the helmet back and go from there.
At the end of the day, Broady was able to walk off the park and is now tweeting.
Glad he is ok
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Re: the stuart broad incident
« Reply #43 on: August 09, 2014, 09:31:30 PM »

The ones using the masuri without the double grill are using the model down. The grills are not interchangeable
Fair enough my bad :/
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Re: the stuart broad incident
« Reply #44 on: August 09, 2014, 09:38:18 PM »

Let's not be naive about this guys. Every cricketer knows that at any time there exists the chance of a ball slipping through any helmet setup. Helmets are there to make sure the damage is not too severe and will not be able to cover all angles. Broad would probably be the first to admit that he could have played that delivery better. It will happen again, with this helmet brand and all the others as well. Man up and get on with the game.
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