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[Red Ink Cricket]

So what does edging a ball do? Does it stay at a constant speed to which is was before? Kiesey was wearing an older masuri I think and look what happened, broad wearing an Aditek and has a broken nose. It's not particularly difficult to break your nose if you hit it at the right angle. I'd say a win for Aditek! Whilst it may not have kept the ball out completely it reduced the damage.  It broke during impact, maybe a minor fault with it? Had broad dropped it or was it just the force and slightly odd angle. I'd certainly rather be broad now than kiesey anyway

[i12breakfree]

^^^ doesn't that have to do with the fact where the ball hits you rather than what helmet you are wearing ?
In broad's case it hit his nose and in case of kiesey it was the eye area.
I think once Tom looks into this with details we will have better answer. I guess with ayrtek everyone believed that this can never happen and this incident, even though unfortunate , will help improve helmet design for ayrtek.

[tim2000s]

 Looking at the video,  you see a bit fly off the helmet.  Looking closer,  it appears that on the Aditek,  the impact off the top edge actually snapped the visor completely,  and created a large enough hole for the ball to get through. Look at the below picture.  Still,  it will have taken a significant amount of the velocity out in doing that...  It's an impact that I suspect has not been tested for.



Not knowing enough about the materials the Aditek that Broad is wearing,  I don't know what this means for the structural integrity.  I would,  however,  bet that the carbon fibre / resin based ones wouldn't suffer the same kind of failure,  simply due to how the material deforms/damages under load like that.
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[golden duck]

It's actually a bit scary that it broke the visor! Possibly a problem with the 'aditek' lid as opposed to the carbon fibre 'ayrtek'  (for want of a better term)

One big question will be whether broad wears a aditek again. Or Will he swap to a masuri (a la Root when he got pinned while wearing a gm lid,  or Pietersen during the ipl - althoughnot bbecause he wore one) 

[crictech]

maybe time cricket moved towards the baseball/hockey helmets with the grill bolted on to the helmet or the facemask types. I'm sure they could be adapted to a cricket style.

[lazza32]

Here's a link with the slow-mo vid of the hit in close up - had it not been for the top edge it would have probably hit him on the grill/chin area. The pictures below are from the same page.

http://metro.co.uk/2014/08/09/englands-stuart-broad-suffers-nasty-injury-as-he-top-edges-ball-through-his-helmet-during-india-test-4826892/




He looks okay as he walks off but give it a day or so until the swelling/bruising comes out. His nose is probably broken but lets hope that he's not as hurt as Kieswetter.



Does this mean there's a grill setting to be avoided on the Ayrtek/Adidas - like a lot of people on the forum I use one and although I'll never face this kind of pace it doesn't mean that I'm not going to top edge on into my own face.....I've even hit myself on the back of the head in the nets!!

So what does edging a ball do? Does it stay at a constant speed to which is was before? Kiesey was wearing an older masuri I think and look what happened, broad wearing an Aditek and has a broken nose. It's not particularly difficult to break your nose if you hit it at the right angle. I'd say a win for Aditek! Whilst it may not have kept the ball out completely it reduced the damage.  It broke during impact, maybe a minor fault with it? Had broad dropped it or was it just the force and slightly odd angle. I'd certainly rather be broad now than kiesey anyway

Were both bowlers bowling at the same speed ? Keiswetters ball seems faster.

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[Kal]

The irony...
https://twitter.com/ayrtekcricket/status/497468458414915584

[Kal]

Still think my Arytek raw helmet is the best on the market! Would and have happily recommend it to anyone.

[AverageCricketer]

Looking at the footage, I did see the nut fly off. Looks like the nut was not tight enough, so it fell off and then the ball was able to force its way through.

[RossViper]

The ones using the masuri without the double grill are using the model down. The grills are not interchangeable

No I think butler has cut a bar out on his, check again

[Fearless Fly]

As this is a forum i will give  my 2 cents.
From the footage i have seen in Aus it looks like a piece of the peak breaks off on impact causing the ball to go through.
Anyone who is saying that this type of event would not have been tested by Ayrtek is naive. They would have to produce something that is not going to break on impact. It has just hit the under side of the grill and shattered, would the same thing of happened if it hit the peak flush??? They have been very loud over the last few years talking about safety and that everyone should be looking to go to helmets like theirs and yet this happens. I have never worn an Ayrtek and never had the inclination to buy one considering the price tag. My thoughts are even more justified IMO as im not willing to spend that much on a helmet when it will break.

I know everyone will say that you couldnt predict something like this but surely in the whole scheme of testing they would have to test every possible area for weakness with impact.

Was also mentioned on here that it was only at 86mph and was not from a bowler of the same zip as a Mitchell Johnson or a Steyn/Morkel.
I think we all can agree that he was lucky it wasnt one of the above as he may not have gotten away so lucky.

Will be interesting to see the report Ayrtek put out over the coming weeks

[Bruce]

If it hit he peak flush it should 'ramp' the ball away.

[Fearless Fly]

If it hit he peak flush it should 'ramp' the ball away.

I thought it would only ramp if the ball it on the the ramp side of the helmet. because if it hits flush shouldnt it really go back where it came from? I have not used or seen many of these helmets so by no means am i an expert or know the inner workings of them

[joeljonno]

I am sure it was tested.

86mph is still fairly quick and off a top edge so probably picked up a bit of pace too.

You don't know what state the helmet was going into this match. It may have been hit several times and already have a hairline crack the had gone unnoticed.

Will be interesting in the output from this.

[skip1973]

A ball can't pick up pace after hitting something.