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Re: Performance Willow
« Reply #15 on: August 14, 2014, 08:28:17 AM »
Quote from: Kal on August 14, 2014, 01:08:17 AM
"Performance willow" is basically ugly looking willow (grade 2 or below), that basically in the eyes of a layman performs as good as a decent looking (ie grade 1).
(Grading clefts as I understand is simply done by looks as per wrights info.)
It helps batmakers to shift those ugly clefts at a more favourable price to them.

^^^^ This

Basically a way to get the most money out of otherwise G2, G3 looking bats.
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Re: Performance Willow
« Reply #16 on: August 14, 2014, 09:10:34 AM »
Quote from: CameronPye94 on August 14, 2014, 08:27:29 AM
Can someone clarify, what is soft pressing and hard pressing??

I've ised a few GMs in my time that are  all referred to as "hard pressed" yet they went well from fairly early in their lives, and improved as they opened up.

I've also had a Woodstock that I couldn't dent with a mallet for love nor money, yet that pinged, but they don't have a reputation for being hard pressed.


These "soft pressed/hard pressed" statements are thrown around daily, but does anyone have a difinitive answer what this actually means??
A bat should be pressed for optimum performance. Some bat company's slightly over press to give longevity to a bat.

Here is A quote from Laver in there email the other day

Laver & Wood can produce a bat with the same weight and balance as
your match bat for net use, but pressed harder than a match bat to
give it extra protection against the hard compo balls. Net bats trade
off a little performance for a lot of protection, and save your match
bat from being ruined when it is not scoring runs.

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Re: Performance Willow
« Reply #17 on: August 14, 2014, 09:33:56 AM »
Quote from: Seniorplayer on August 14, 2014, 08:21:16 AM
Many years experience of playing and using many bats proved to me that this is correct but the softer pressed bats generally have a shorter life span.

Softer pressing? Or well-pressed 'softer' willow?'

As I understand it, it's about optimum pressing, not 'hard' or 'soft'.

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Re: Performance Willow
« Reply #18 on: August 14, 2014, 09:47:38 AM »
Quote from: d7bow on August 14, 2014, 09:10:34 AM
A bat should be pressed for optimum performance. Some bat company's slightly over press to give longevity to a bat.

This is my issue with Warsops, nice bats but the ones sold to clubies do get pressed for longevity and take a fair old while to open up.
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Re: Performance Willow
« Reply #19 on: August 14, 2014, 01:28:03 PM »
Quote from: Bats_Entertainment on August 14, 2014, 09:33:56 AM
Softer pressing? Or well-pressed 'softer' willow?'

As I understand it, it's about optimum pressing, not 'hard' or 'soft'.

Good point. Or softer willow softer pressed for optimum performance.
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Re: Performance Willow
« Reply #20 on: August 14, 2014, 01:32:48 PM »
Quote from: Stuey on August 14, 2014, 09:47:38 AM
This is my issue with Warsops, nice bats but the ones sold to clubies do get pressed for longevity and take a fair old while to open up.

 Longevity and to help maintain warranties.
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Re: Performance Willow
« Reply #21 on: August 14, 2014, 01:37:57 PM »
Take 2 clefts of willow, 1 is G1 and other is G3 or G4. G1 looks better than G4, they are both made to same weight, balance and pick-up, pressed equally well. Will they perform just the same? maybe, maybe not. If the bat maker deems the G4 is going perform just as well as G1 then sell it as Performance willow, get G1 money for a G4 bat, otherwise sell it as a G4. Don't mean to cause any offense but it seems more prevalent in small brands where as bigger brands like GM have a set standard for grading and stick to it (most times).
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Re: Performance Willow
« Reply #22 on: September 25, 2014, 12:48:24 PM »
can anyone shed some light on how to get a bat that performs as good as pro or international level? If a G3 or 4 bat can give that level of performance without burning a hole in the pocket, thats great! if any one knows of a perticular model of bat which is cheap but an international player won't mind using it then please let me know.
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Re: Performance Willow
« Reply #23 on: September 25, 2014, 12:54:52 PM »
Quote from: drsaurabhg on September 25, 2014, 12:48:24 PM
can anyone shed some light on how to get a bat that performs as good as pro or international level? If a G3 or 4 bat can give that level of performance without burning a hole in the pocket, thats great! if any one knows of a perticular model of bat which is cheap but an international player won't mind using it then please let me know.

Saurabh, if a bat is deemed destined for a Pro chances are it will burn a hole in your pocket regardless of what grade willow it is. Seems like clefts that make the biggest bats for the weight are generally considered pro level, obviously performance is a factor too.

B3 cricket have crown willow, which I would think comes close plus you have the option of designing your own bat. Similarly other brands offer Pro/Players willow like H4L, Blank Bats (BB), Rob Pack Cricket (RPC), Aldred etc.

if you are looking for a retailer so you could pick a bat that already exists you could go to UZI sports and get their bats, some of which are made for international players from Pakistan. Hope all this helps, none of it will be cheap but all these options would still be cheaper or equal to big brand's top of the line bats for general public.
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Re: Performance Willow
« Reply #24 on: September 25, 2014, 03:02:10 PM »
You could a look at Bat reviews for by Paul its just cricket or Jason Hammer personally I am waiting for the Kudos 2 bat review as that could be special.
But to give you  some idea Of  the cost of an handmade professional players total performance bat made to your own specs at the beginning of Sept i was quoted £320.00.
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Re: Performance Willow
« Reply #25 on: September 26, 2014, 07:30:48 PM »
In my mind, if a bat is pressed correctly then performance comes from the volume of willow behind where the ball is struck.
So no matter the grade, as long as its got a 90mm spine and weighs nowt, I'd use it.

But G1++++ just looks soooooo sexy. :-[
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