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Re: Off season fitness training
« Reply #45 on: September 21, 2014, 08:05:53 AM »

Gents hope it goes well, just keep you goal always in mind an understand that progress isn't linear. Some weeks you'll push forward faster than others, some weeks you might cut back , depending on how you feel and always schedule a rest week in every 6-8 weeks ( you can still do very low volume training in this time or mobility drills).  I might stick my training plan up here if anyone is interested.
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Re: Off season fitness training
« Reply #46 on: September 21, 2014, 10:44:45 PM »

Having 4 days off with a cold is going to have killed me as well.

Back in it tomorrow, hopefully I feel good.
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Re: Off season fitness training
« Reply #47 on: September 22, 2014, 10:27:14 AM »

Stuey.

Post up your routine if you will.  I am getting back into gyming after a year or two out.  Wouldn't mind some new ideas rather than go back to my own routines.

Also, any suggestions for a wicket keeper batsman.  I'm quite tall for a keeper so don't want to bulk up too much, probably more in the way of lean muscle.  I'm looking at doing a lot of swimming and general cardio as well.
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Re: Off season fitness training
« Reply #48 on: September 22, 2014, 04:02:39 PM »

Sure go ahead,

Gents hope it goes well, just keep you goal always in mind an understand that progress isn't linear. Some weeks you'll push forward faster than others, some weeks you might cut back , depending on how you feel and always schedule a rest week in every 6-8 weeks ( you can still do very low volume training in this time or mobility drills).  I might stick my training plan up here if anyone is interested.

My training programme used to be:

20-30 minutes on the bike.

Rest period, during the half hour rest period, do 3 sets of Chin ups and 3 sets of dips.

Go on the treadmill for 25 minutes.

I've kind of replaced the rest period with the weights, but they're usually on the machine assisted ones as it's quicker. But I've not been in half a year, plus a broken foot and damaged ligament in my shoulder has stopped me from going the past 2 months when I rejoined.
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Re: Off season fitness training
« Reply #49 on: September 22, 2014, 10:22:26 PM »

Spoken to the gym instructor today and he's sorting me out with something cricket related for the gym and it starts tomorrow!

Bring on next season.
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Re: Off season fitness training
« Reply #50 on: September 22, 2014, 11:00:49 PM »

Do you guys play cricket professionally?
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Re: Off season fitness training
« Reply #51 on: September 22, 2014, 11:31:36 PM »

What is a training/fitness routine for an opening batsmen? What is a good workout for developing power for big hits to clear the rope?
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Re: Off season fitness training
« Reply #52 on: September 23, 2014, 10:34:04 AM »

As a club player all you really need is GPP (General preparedness) i.e. a programme of Turkish get ups and Kettlebell swings will do wonders for everyones game (unless you have a medical condition which prevents you from doing these exercises), I've used this format and still incorporate it. If you don't have a base level of strength, additional specific cricket exercises are pointless. Get some decent S&C and work on your game and you'll be surprised where you are next season.
I'll post my plan this week, just working it out, as we've got another baby on the way in Feb, so my time and sleep will be pretty limited. It will though consist of mostly TGU's and Swings.
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Re: Off season fitness training
« Reply #53 on: September 23, 2014, 02:24:07 PM »

Spoken to the gym instructor today and he's sorting me out with something cricket related for the gym and it starts tomorrow!

Bring on next season.

Be good if you posted it up here! :)
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Re: Off season fitness training
« Reply #54 on: September 23, 2014, 05:36:44 PM »

I'm going to get some miles in on the bike before the terrible weather gets in!
Did a 34 miler today!
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Re: Off season fitness training
« Reply #55 on: September 23, 2014, 06:06:33 PM »

Mike Selvey wrote an excellent piece on the merits of good old fashioned running in The Cricketer.
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Re: Off season fitness training
« Reply #56 on: September 24, 2014, 11:55:22 AM »

Ok gents, this isn't sexy, but as requested here is my training plan with some explanation (apologies for the length).

Just a caveate, this is my plan, I'm not a S&C coach, I'm using exercises and programmes I've read and used to great effect. A bit of background, I've trained to differing degrees over the last 20 years and done everything from isolated gym rat workouts, to Cross Fit, to HIT, to Barbell training, Body weight only, Kettlebell training etc I've found what works for me and what doesn't for my goal(s).

Goal: Cricket - To be fit (good stamina levels), strong (be resilient to injury) explosive (able to add power to my batting, bowling, thowing and running), have good mobility (whether fielding, batting or bowling).

Limitations to factor in to my training: Limited time due to work and family, new baby due in Feb so limited sleep, injuries (throwing shoulder injured while HIT training a few years back, Knee tendinitis from playing football) and I'm 38 not 18.

Based on the above I've selected the below:

Exercises:
Turkish Get up, Swing, both to be performed with a Kettlebell (the best tool I've used for a one stop strength and conditioning tool for sport)

Programme:
Simple and Sinister by Pavel Tsatsouline :

1) 100 swings progressing from 2 hand, to alternating 10 left then 10 right the aim is to have a rest work ratio of 1:1 once your able to do 100 swings in 5 mins (comfortably) move up to the next weight KB.

2) 10 TGU's alternating 1 left 1 right aim to complete in 10 mins (work towards this) once comfortably done so move up a weight.

Schedule:
This is one of the few programmes you can do daily, Pavel has designed it for that purpose, if some days you feel tired simply drop down a weight of KB or reduce reps or rest. Having said that I have knee issues and found that daily TGU's aggravate my tendinitis so I'll be doing this 3 x per week start with and then reassessing after a few weeks. I have done this programme before working up to a 40kg kettlebell but after a few months of almost daily workouts my knees became sore so this time will be a suck it and see approach to scheduling. But by doing 3 days a week I'll be doing a total of 300 swings p/w which is enough for my conditioning.

Ok so why have I selected these exercises:
1) Time, I can get these done with a warm up in under 30 Min's whether before work or in the evening.
2) The TGU is a great total body strengthening exercises, done properly it builds a solid core, resilient shoulders (hypertrophy around the shoulder joint).
3) The Swing is a fantastic conditioning tool, with low impact on joints, great for grip strength, building a strong core and explosive ballistic movement. The hip hinge movement as great carry over to cricket, think of fielding, bowling delivery stride or playing a shot. People who have trained using the swing notice whats familiarly call the 'what the hell' effect. Try doing a few weeks of swings then going for a run, you be surprised how strong/fit you feel at the end hence 'WTH'!

This is the core of my training and I can carry doing this programme right throughout the cricket season (whether you can depends on your programme). If I end up upping my my training to from 3 to say 5 days per week during the off season I'll drop it back down to 3 days for the season. I've found 2-3 days of training (not too failure) during the season is the sweet spot. Any more takes more recovery and has a negative impact on my cricket.

Additonal to the above I'll do some longish runs adhoc through the winter, then around Feb switch to hill sprints. During the season I do some sprint training at Cricket training for speed not conditioning work i.e 1 x 10m, 1 x 20m ....1 x 50m. You could play squash etc, but I don't have the time to commit so adhoc runs then weekly sprint sessions work for me.

Each session has a warm up I keep this simple, mobility drills and a warm up from (S&S - includes Goblet squats, if your hip flexors are tight it will hinder performance). I always include T-spine rations as this an important movement in cricket and as you get older the ability to do these diminishes unless you work at them (hence throwing, hitting power etc diminishes).

What I'm expecting this to give me is a strong and durable body, that will allow me to move around freely and at speed and apply power when needed over the course of the cricket match. I know this works because I've done it before. To some this may sound a lot of work  and to others who live in the gym not very much. For me I'm happy to put in a limited amount of time to ensure I play at the best of my ability for long as possible.

If you want to follow the above read Pavel's book http://www.amazon.co.uk/Kettlebell-Simple-Sinister-Pavel-Tsatsouline-ebook/dp/B00GF2HP9G it £6 on kindle, don't just follow what I have wrote.
If you are interested in investigating more I'd recommend Pavel and Dan John's book 'Easy strength' http://www.amazon.co.uk/Easy-Strength-Pavel-Tsatsouline-ebook/dp/B005Q6M79A

How this will look over a week is:

Monday
Warm up
100 KB swings
10 TGUs

Wed
Warm up
100 KB swings
10 TGUs

Friday
Warm up
100 KB swings
10 TGUs

Depending on how my knees are I may add a day or 2 as I go along. When I feel like it go for a run, from feb I'll swap the run for hill sprints. Simples!


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Re: Off season fitness training
« Reply #57 on: September 26, 2014, 07:32:02 AM »

Thought I'd provide a bit of a mid programme update on my progress. Bearing in mind that I am training for strength improvement and body mass reshaping, and this is not focussed on fitness conditioning, the results I have had in three weeks are:

- Body fat: Start - 25.4%; Current - 18.6%
- Weight: Start - 100.5kg; Current - 96.3kg
- Lean Mass: Start - 74.8kg; Current - 78.1kg

Bearing in mind that it is an eight week programme, it will be interesting to see where I end up!
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Re: Off season fitness training
« Reply #58 on: September 26, 2014, 07:53:19 AM »

Thought I'd provide a bit of a mid programme update on my progress. Bearing in mind that I am training for strength improvement and body mass reshaping, and this is not focussed on fitness conditioning, the results I have had in three weeks are:

- Body fat: Start - 25.4%; Current - 18.6%
- Weight: Start - 100.5kg; Current - 96.3kg
- Lean Mass: Start - 74.8kg; Current - 78.1kg

Bearing in mind that it is an eight week programme, it will be interesting to see where I end up!

I've been following 5x5 for the last month and just trying to eat a bit better, but how did you measure your bodyfat % Tim, I can physically see a difference but it'd be cool to measure that also.
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Re: Off season fitness training
« Reply #59 on: September 26, 2014, 07:59:31 AM »

I've been following 5x5 for the last month and just trying to eat a bit better, but how did you measure your bodyfat % Tim, I can physically see a difference but it'd be cool to measure that also.
As part of what I'm doing, the gym measures at three week intervals using callipers at multiple sites. In fairness, the diet is the crucial part. Without that, the effects would have been way lower.
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