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GarrettJ

Re: Overdeliver or underdeliver
« Reply #30 on: September 28, 2014, 09:25:43 AM »

100% agree you can tell a bat is too heavy within a few goes of it but performance I'm a bit of a skeptic.

Performance is everything I agree, but you may be out of form and use the bat as the reason and unfairly dismiss it and the brand as a result.

I've seen people use a bat for half a season, discard it as a plank, pull out my specially shaped mallet, bash it 2 or 3 times and then show them the big dents it has in it.

A bat needs properly knocking in ...... Buy a bat in the sale at this time of year, knock it in gradually on a weekly basis over the winter, pull it out in winter nets, by the time the season starts it will be great. You will also get used to it.

Can never understand people swapping or buying bats during the season to use unless their bat breaks and becomes unusable.

You will see many top pros using bats that look like they are falling apart, changing a bat mid season is going to mess you up as no two bats are EVER the same and the handles always feel different.
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Re: Overdeliver or underdeliver
« Reply #31 on: September 28, 2014, 12:20:57 PM »

How many people on here have used 1 bat exclusively for a full season or 2 to say they are underwhelmed by it?
My woodstock last year! After a season of use I concluded it was a very nice bat but the Wong shape for me.
Sold it to a teammate who loves it and I've gone for something with a higher middle this year, everyone's happy  ;)
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Re: Overdeliver or underdeliver
« Reply #32 on: September 28, 2014, 12:42:12 PM »

I've used my current bat for 3 seasons now...
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« Reply #33 on: September 28, 2014, 12:45:34 PM »

I've used my current bat for 3 seasons now...
As you've kept it that long I guess you're not underwhelmed by it though??  :)
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Re: Overdeliver or underdeliver
« Reply #34 on: September 28, 2014, 12:55:35 PM »

Sorry Garrett but there is crystal clear difference between my best bat and my worst. My best bat is not massive but bloody hell it goes like a rocket. My worst bat is a scat and yes in a couple of years it may be good but I'm on the wrong side of 40 and refuse to wait a couple of seasons especially when I've paid a kings ransom.

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Re: Overdeliver or underdeliver
« Reply #35 on: September 28, 2014, 01:01:49 PM »

Sorry Garrett but there is crystal clear difference between my best bat and my worst. My best bat is not massive but bloody hell it goes like a rocket. My worst bat is a scat and yes in a couple of years it may be good but I'm on the wrong side of 40 and refuse to wait a couple of seasons especially when I've paid a kings ransom.

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I'll give you £30 posted for the Scat then as you've basically said its a plank??  ;)
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Re: Overdeliver or underdeliver
« Reply #36 on: September 28, 2014, 01:07:18 PM »

I'm keeping it as they won't be made anymore.

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« Reply #37 on: September 28, 2014, 01:09:31 PM »

Coincidentally my local is selling the distinction and it is probably the closest shape to a scat on the market.

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Re: Overdeliver or underdeliver
« Reply #38 on: September 28, 2014, 01:10:02 PM »

lazza32

Is the scat knocked in properly?

Give the bat to a none cricketer, give him a mallet and tell him to smack it as hard as he can.

If you are worried by doing this process it's not knocked in properly.

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Re: Overdeliver or underdeliver
« Reply #39 on: September 28, 2014, 04:20:11 PM »

Laver,Aldred,affinity, overwhelmed

Salix(snapped in half!),,gray nicks(plank),m&hx2 crap pick up and balance but good ping(why did I buy em?)

Jedi, somewhere in between,,had 4xbats.  Ok for what they cost

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Re: Overdeliver or underdeliver
« Reply #40 on: September 28, 2014, 10:04:53 PM »

100% agree you can tell a bat is too heavy within a few goes of it but performance I'm a bit of a skeptic.

Performance is everything I agree, but you may be out of form and use the bat as the reason and unfairly dismiss it and the brand as a result.

I've seen people use a bat for half a season, discard it as a plank, pull out my specially shaped mallet, bash it 2 or 3 times and then show them the big dents it has in it.

A bat needs properly knocking in ...... Buy a bat in the sale at this time of year, knock it in gradually on a weekly basis over the winter, pull it out in winter nets, by the time the season starts it will be great. You will also get used to it.

Can never understand people swapping or buying bats during the season to use unless their bat breaks and becomes unusable.

You will see many top pros using bats that look like they are falling apart, changing a bat mid season is going to mess you up as no two bats are EVER the same and the handles always feel different.

Nail on the head mate.

Maybe I'm lucky but only used one real plank in the last few years really
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Re: Overdeliver or underdeliver
« Reply #41 on: September 29, 2014, 12:28:15 AM »

The scat is knocked in properly, I followed Julians instructions to the letter. I have no doubt that in time it will open up and get better but the top grade is supposed to be good from the start according to the website.

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Re: Overdeliver or underdeliver
« Reply #42 on: September 29, 2014, 11:30:36 AM »

My apologies, I didn't quite read this thread right!

I suppose after using it you are well placed to say it's a plank!

How many people on here have used 1 bat exclusively for a full season or 2 to say they are underwhelmed by it?

Last season I had a GN Oblivion with the carbo handle. I used it the whole season, I scored over 1200 runs with it and hit 50+ sixes, including some of the biggest hits of my life. It was obviously a decent bat but I felt underwhelmed by it the whole season, the middle never really felt as good as my GN Xiphos that had broken over the winter net, even though I was never had as prolific a season using it.

I do agree that people on here seem to throw away bats too quickly, though sometimes I can understand why. Nothing like a bit of brand new willow!
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Re: Overdeliver or underdeliver
« Reply #43 on: September 29, 2014, 12:30:39 PM »

100% agree you can tell a bat is too heavy within a few goes of it but performance I'm a bit of a skeptic.

Performance is everything I agree, but you may be out of form and use the bat as the reason and unfairly dismiss it and the brand as a result.

I've seen people use a bat for half a season, discard it as a plank, pull out my specially shaped mallet, bash it 2 or 3 times and then show them the big dents it has in it.

A bat needs properly knocking in ...... Buy a bat in the sale at this time of year, knock it in gradually on a weekly basis over the winter, pull it out in winter nets, by the time the season starts it will be great. You will also get used to it.

Can never understand people swapping or buying bats during the season to use unless their bat breaks and becomes unusable.

You will see many top pros using bats that look like they are falling apart, changing a bat mid season is going to mess you up as no two bats are EVER the same and the handles always feel different.


Agree with this but from the other perspective - too light! Top bat and a great performer in the hands of others but I just can't get any value for my shots with it. I'm underwhelmed by myself not the bat!
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Re: Overdeliver or underdeliver
« Reply #44 on: September 29, 2014, 01:00:27 PM »

I agree that a bat needs to be used for a while before you can judge its true performance but here is another thing. For someone like me who has gone through a lot of bats, enough every year that I could have started a small shop, you can tell early on too if a bat if going play well for you or not. I knock all my bats and oil them, I spend hours doing this to every bat, some don't even get used for the season as I am not satisfied with the knocking so will work on them the entire off season.

Right now I have 3 bats that I know are absolutely guns, or going to be. My Blueroom LE (Has been used in almost every game for last 2 seasons), BB Butterfly (Used in 2 matches, knocked in recently) & my RPC puchased shortly before the BBB but has not been used. Compared to my Salix, which is a phenomenal bat but just does not have that same feel, friend used it and loved it, for me though not quiet the right bat.

So i think it is possible to guess on performance at the start of life of a bat, obviously some bats will be the exceptions and that's Okay.
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