Topic: What's the impact of using a bat that is 10% heavier than your normal weight? (Read 10998 times)

Blaise · « **Reply #30 on:** September 25, 2014, 12:39:07 AM »

Interestingly I went from a 2.9 bat which I had used for a couple of years to a 2.14 bat. Once I had a few practice sessions with the new bat, I didn't notice the difference.

My game didn't suffer in any way - and in fact I was able to hit the ball further and score more runs.

It did help that my new bat was well balanced. I hesitate to say it picks up like a 2.10 bat - but the weight does feel evenly distributed from handle to the bottom of the blade and it moves through the air really well.

procricket · « **Reply #31 on:** October 20, 2016, 05:09:21 PM »

@tim2000s great topic sorry it out of dat but through my workings with @The Doctor and b3 I think the truth is you should all things equal which there are not get 10 per cent extra power if the weight is distributed properly and once you have got used to it and start timings thing properly.

Naughty bringing old topics up but there many in the back catalogue I'm thinking of doing because there better than the sales struggle and boorish anti cricket posts currently

skip1973 · « **Reply #32 on:** October 20, 2016, 10:16:14 PM »

Quote from: tim2000s on September 23, 2014, 08:19:35 AM

Following on from the discussion on the topic of the Affinity Carbine, I thought I'd raise the question again of Balance versus Weight.

I'm strongly of the opinion that a bat that weighs 10% or more heavier than something you are used to will have a detrimental effect on your batting (having tried to do this) unless you practice with it a lot, due to a number of factors. There is a school of thought that says one that weighs 10% more but is balanced such that it feels like it weighs the same when you pick it up will not affect your batting.

What are your thoughts and experiences related to this. I'm strongly in the camp that weight matters (but not necessarily a single ounce) and that big jumps (i.e. 10% or more cannot be countered by the bat being well balanced. Where do you sit?

What's your experience with the XP80 been like? I use 2.7 normally but have one of these XP80 in 2.9, pick is great but it is still in the back of my mind that it's too heavy, will find out tomorrow if the rain holds off.

tim2000s · « **Reply #33 on:** October 21, 2016, 06:45:48 AM »

Quote from: procricket on October 20, 2016, 05:09:21 PM

@tim2000s great topic sorry it out of dat but through my workings with @The Doctor and b3 I think the truth is you should all things equal which there are not get 10 per cent extra power if the weight is distributed properly and once you have got used to it and start timings thing properly.

Naughty bringing old topics up but there many in the back catalogue I'm thinking of doing because there better than the sales struggle and boorish anti cricket posts currently

I think what you're saying concurs with my original point - if you practice with it and get used to it, then yes you're fine, but if you pick it up and try and use it in a one off, when you're used to something lighter, you'll experience a few issues.

Quote from: skip1973 on October 20, 2016, 10:16:14 PM

What's your experience with the XP80 been like? I use 2.7 normally but have one of these XP80 in 2.9, pick is great but it is still in the back of my mind that it's too heavy, will find out tomorrow if the rain holds off.

My experience of my XP80 has been amazing, but then the weight isn't outside of my normal range and the pick up is astonishing! And it's like a trampoline, as proven by the 72m hit I made with it in my last match of the season!

Sitonit · « **Reply #34 on:** October 21, 2016, 06:53:30 AM »

� 10% offset is fair ... all what matters is the balance, feel and pick-up.

Everyone player has a different muscle strength, ligament movements and hand-eye coordination. A bat 2.10 � 4 oz that may feel like dream to one player who uses 2.10, may feel like a plonker in the hands of another batsman who also uses 2.10

It's all about the balance when you pick the bat and you know exactly where the sweet spot is, and how effectively you can make it meet the ball.

JTtaylor145 · « **Reply #35 on:** October 21, 2016, 07:06:25 AM »

For me the pick up myth etc. is all absolute rubbish. I've used enough bats over the years to know that I cannot and won't use a bat that's over 2lb 9ozs. I know that people will say "it's 2lb 11ozs but picks up like 2lb 8ozs" that's absolute tosh. For me actual weight is all that matters. I've played cricket long enough to know what I want in terms of the weight of my bat.

Northern monkey · « **Reply #36 on:** October 21, 2016, 07:35:08 AM »

I'd echo above
Old age, injuries,whiplash damage etc have seen me drop to 2.9 from 3lb in my youth

FattusCattus · « **Reply #37 on:** October 21, 2016, 07:35:26 AM »

I couldn't tell you the weight of any of my bats, but the weights are all slightly different. I do, however, like the pick-up of them.

I was using a Warbird last year that picked up fine for me but when weighed was 2.12!!!

So I now go purely on pick up, and don't even bother asking the weights.

Obviously, my best bat is the one with the sexiest stickers!

JTtaylor145 · « **Reply #38 on:** October 21, 2016, 07:48:53 AM »

I'd love to be able to be more flexible with bat weights but I just can't be. I have always used the same weight and even if a heavier bat does have a great balance, I just know that over the course of an innings I will feel that extra weight and it's not for me. Even if I see an amazing bat with fantastic balance and it weighs over 2lb 9ozs I'll dismiss it. Like everything with bats it's all personal choice, taste and experience.

Cow_corner · « **Reply #39 on:** October 21, 2016, 07:53:44 AM »

I'm not weight obsessed it's balance for me. Difficulty for me is I buy all my wood mail order. However it's just not difficult these days to get hand picked stuff.

procricket · « **Reply #40 on:** October 21, 2016, 07:55:57 AM »

I have gone the other way slightly heavier as I'm getting older and rely less on hand speed and more on timing and with added weight feel I need to swing a tad slower.

Also find heavier bats make me play straighter with lesser moving parts but that's me.

I have various bats all between a medium and go with them.

Found once your timing and used to a bat a push can turn into four when a lighter bat it wouldn't. But as you say all about experience. I know the science behind it and for me it the trade off hand speed vs weight power. My game is suiting a heavier blade currently

procricket · « **Reply #41 on:** October 21, 2016, 07:57:46 AM »

Quote from: Cow_corner on October 21, 2016, 07:53:44 AM

I'm not weight obsessed it's balance for me. Difficulty for me is I buy all my wood mail order. However it's just not difficult these days to get hand picked stuff.

That's my argument there hand picked stuff if picked in balance may suit the person hand picking but not the person it is for.

I guess it gives people some confidence but never been a fan of hand picked good sales stuff but it only as good as for the person who picks it

Vitas Cricket · « **Reply #42 on:** October 21, 2016, 08:12:43 AM »

Quote from: procricket on October 21, 2016, 07:57:46 AM

That's my argument there hand picked stuff if picked in balance may suit the person hand picking but not the person it is for.

I guess it gives people some confidence but never been a fan of hand picked good sales stuff but it only as good as for the person who picks it

We like doing it, and there are a few customers who trust us almost blindly to choose bats for them, but we don't hang our hat on it. Whatever anyone claims, when you select bats it's mostly about looks.

Thought it was time for some honesty from a retailer given recent events

I might take this one step further and deliberately pick a couple of beautifully balanced top end bats with good Ping that look like slop when we visit one of the big manufacturers. Then run an experiment to see how quickly they sell.

Back to the original point I don't think minor weight variations are anything to worry about. My bats weigh between 2'9 and 2'12, I'm happy to use any of them at any time.

Northern monkey · « **Reply #43 on:** October 21, 2016, 08:14:32 AM »

Wait until you get old!
I can't pick a 2.11 bat up!

procricket · « **Reply #44 on:** October 21, 2016, 08:29:01 AM »

Quote from: Vitas Cricket on October 21, 2016, 08:12:43 AM

We like doing it, and there are a few customers who trust us almost blindly to choose bats for them, but we don't hang our hat on it. Whatever anyone claims, when you select bats it's mostly about looks.

Thought it was time for some honesty from a retailer given recent events

I might take this one step further and deliberately pick a couple of beautifully balanced top end bats with good Ping that look like slop when we visit one of the big manufacturers. Then run an experiment to see how quickly they sell.

Back to the original point I don't think minor weight variations are anything to worry about. My bats weigh between 2'9 and 2'12, I'm happy to use any of them at any time.

Fair play at least you ain't waffled like some and been honest.

Poll

How important is the weight of the bat?

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