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Re: Newbery Visit on October 9th - time for more pre-orders! :-)
« Reply #30 on: September 24, 2014, 09:04:45 AM »
I get it when the likes of Kookaburra/GM/GN charge upwards of £350/£400 for their top of the range bats but at least they keep it consistent throughout the entire range, Newbery seem to have little to no consistency at all with their pricing - they've purely priced it trying to take advantage of their customers who will want the newer models which is poor IMO, why not sell the "old" bats for £399 instead of £299, are these supposedly inferior products?

Personally I'm amazed you'd be happy as a retailer stocking 2 bats of the exact same grade of willow, from the same brand, but with a £100 price tag difference purely because "it's the new one"
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« Reply #31 on: September 24, 2014, 09:10:35 AM »
Do you not think Newbery have got the branding a little confused this year?

Why would you call a plain, very simple looking bat "Panache" might unless they are being sarcastic... in which case "Satire" would be a perfect range
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Re: Newbery Visit on October 9th - time for more pre-orders! :-)
« Reply #32 on: September 24, 2014, 09:24:30 AM »
For me personally (and I don't want to move Paul's thread off topic anymore) this is how you do classy. I like change and progress but these stickers are timeless IMHO.

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Re: Newbery Visit on October 9th - time for more pre-orders! :-)
« Reply #33 on: September 24, 2014, 09:32:25 AM »
Agree - I love the traditional Newbery styling.  That said, I don't hae a problem with the Kudos and PAnache stickers either - they're still a lot more stylish than most.
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Re: Newbery Visit on October 9th - time for more pre-orders! :-)
« Reply #34 on: September 24, 2014, 10:57:51 AM »
Quote from: neoncricket on September 24, 2014, 09:04:45 AM
I get it when the likes of Kookaburra/GM/GN charge upwards of £350/£400 for their top of the range bats but at least they keep it consistent throughout the entire range, Newbery seem to have little to no consistency at all with their pricing - they've purely priced it trying to take advantage of their customers who will want the newer models which is poor IMO, why not sell the "old" bats for £399 instead of £299, are these supposedly inferior products?

Personally I'm amazed you'd be happy as a retailer stocking 2 bats of the exact same grade of willow, from the same brand, but with a £100 price tag difference purely because "it's the new one"

Like I said, it's not just the fact that they are new.  The Kudos2 are supposed to be pro quality bats that are pressed differently to the rest of the range.  We have been told in no uncertain terms that they are simply superior when it comes to performance.  This intrigues me and I don't feel Newbery are the type to pull the wool over our eyes.  I may be proven wrong, but we are at least willing to give them a try and see if we agree with them...
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Re: Newbery Visit on October 9th - time for more pre-orders! :-)
« Reply #35 on: September 24, 2014, 11:02:26 AM »
Quote from: ItsJustCricket on September 24, 2014, 10:57:51 AM
Like I said, it's not just the fact that they are new.  The Kudos2 are supposed to be pro quality bats that are pressed differently to the rest of the range.  We have been told in no uncertain terms that they are simply superior when it comes to performance.  This intrigues me and I don't feel Newbery are the type to pull the wool over our eyes.  I may be proven wrong, but we are at least willing to give them a try and see if we agree with them...

Are we to presume that this process is either far more complex than their normal pressing, or that it reduces the lifespan of the bats, otherwise why are they doing a substandard job of pressing all the other models?
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Re: Newbery Visit on October 9th - time for more pre-orders! :-)
« Reply #36 on: September 24, 2014, 11:03:40 AM »
Quote from: Kulli on September 24, 2014, 11:02:26 AM
Are we to presume that this process is either far more complex than their normal pressing, or that it reduces the lifespan of the bats, otherwise why are they doing a substandard job of pressing all the other models?

Very good questions, which we don't have answers to just yet...
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Re: Newbery Visit on October 9th - time for more pre-orders! :-)
« Reply #37 on: September 24, 2014, 11:04:42 AM »
Quote from: jamesisapayne on September 24, 2014, 09:24:30 AM
For me personally (and I don't want to move Paul's thread off topic anymore) this is how you do classy. I like change and progress but these stickers are timeless IMHO.




James, you must be pleased that they've retained the Mjolnir, then (in both the new and original profile shapes)?!  :) The stickers haven't changed either...
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Re: Newbery Visit on October 9th - time for more pre-orders! :-)
« Reply #38 on: September 24, 2014, 11:09:04 AM »
Yeah fair enough, just surprised they haven't created a new grade to attempt to justify it (Pro SPS or something like that) - if the average joe saw all their bats without knowing about the supposed differences in pressing then I'd be surprised if they're happy paying the extra whack for what would appear to be different stickers. Saying that is pressing a blade differently really worth £100? And if the pressing is so superior why not do this for all your bats? Would be good to hear your thoughts when you get a hold of one!
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Re: Newbery Visit on October 9th - time for more pre-orders! :-)
« Reply #39 on: September 24, 2014, 11:21:20 AM »
Quote from: ItsJustCricket on September 24, 2014, 10:57:51 AM
Like I said, it's not just the fact that they are new.  The Kudos2 are supposed to be pro quality bats that are pressed differently to the rest of the range.  We have been told in no uncertain terms that they are simply superior when it comes to performance.  This intrigues me and I don't feel Newbery are the type to pull the wool over our eyes.  I may be proven wrong, but we are at least willing to give them a try and see if we agree with them...

So does that mean they've been selling duff bats to the public for years then??

Surely the pressing process (run the willow through a press) is the same, they just do it to a different level than usual??

And by pro quality does that mean will ping well yet break more easily, but who cares, there's another 8 of them in my bag??

This isn't a dig at you Paul as you can only quote what you've been told, but I'm not sure how Newbery can justify an extra £100 just for pressing a bat differently!
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Re: Newbery Visit on October 9th - time for more pre-orders! :-)
« Reply #40 on: September 24, 2014, 11:21:32 AM »
I really like the Kudos2 stickers and the shape. The profile of the Panache is not too bad either but if I acquired one those stickers would be coming straight off. Looks like they've sat a 5 year old down on Microsoft Word and told them to make the word Panache look pretty.
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Re: Newbery Visit on October 9th - time for more pre-orders! :-)
« Reply #41 on: September 24, 2014, 11:28:43 AM »
Quote from: WalkingWicket37 on September 24, 2014, 11:21:20 AM
So does that mean they've been selling duff bats to the public for years then??

Surely the pressing process (run the willow through a press) is the same, they just do it to a different level than usual??

And by pro quality does that mean will ping well yet break more easily, but who cares, there's another 8 of them in my bag??

This isn't a dig at you Paul as you can only quote what you've been told, but I'm not sure how Newbery can justify an extra £100 just for pressing a bat differently!

I appreciate this is not a dig at us, but at this stage, until we know more, I would rather just keep it simple and not speculate.  The bats will apparently perform better, so they are priced higher.  That's good enough for most of our customers...  :)
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Re: Newbery Visit on October 9th - time for more pre-orders! :-)
« Reply #42 on: September 24, 2014, 11:50:46 AM »
What does everyone think of the Kudos softs? A little surprised nobody has commented on those yet...
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Re: Newbery Visit on October 9th - time for more pre-orders! :-)
« Reply #43 on: September 24, 2014, 11:53:13 AM »
Quote from: ItsJustCricket on September 24, 2014, 11:50:46 AM
What does everyone think of the Kudos softs? A little surprised nobody has commented on those yet...
I'll hold off until they release the Kudos 2 players softs for double the price before I judge them  ;)
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Re: Newbery Visit on October 9th - time for more pre-orders! :-)
« Reply #44 on: September 24, 2014, 12:53:51 PM »
Quote from: ItsJustCricket on September 24, 2014, 11:50:46 AM
What does everyone think of the Kudos softs? A little surprised nobody has commented on those yet...

To me they don't look hugely different to what Newbery have been doing with their softs for several years now and the colour scheme just reminds me of toothpaste for some reason!
I guess the lack of comments suggests they are unremarkable
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