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[Stuey]

I expect it is possible to fall out of love with cricket.

I've heard that rumour too

[ppccopener]

saj mamood just released by Essex
not going to put a downer on the guy but if there is anyone who tops the 'less value for money' category i'm yet to see him...

[SOULMAN1012]

One thing about a county pro is that when you have a family it's got to be tough. Could be away for long periods ( 4 day games across the country is 4 days playing plus travel I would guess at least a day before then day after so basically a week) plus training every day. Then in winter tours, pre-season training.

Then you have to earn in winter as well. 2nd job or play in Aus, New Zealand etc

[joeylough]

Sorry to go back to the orginal Lancs man but ill throw a few words in.

Horton ave 37.88
Lumb ave 35.48
Carberry 43.22
Morgan 36.12
Hales 36.65
Ballance 55.83
Bopara 40.26
Bell 39.67
Ali 38.77
Rogers 50.03

Just thrown in a few England players and one Aussie who he is playing against.

Personally I see a decent county player between 35-45 then anything above that as a great county player that should be playing international level.

I think that one think we always forget to remember is that they are also playing against better bowlers. So when an average of 37.88 over a career at amateur level maybe the best we will the average at the next level can only be harder to improve as I said before better bowlers!

In my eyes if you have two teams at the same level as each other player for player you could in theory get the same averages running through.

[Bats_Entertainment]

They play against better bowlers? No way! 

[tailender]

Sorry to go back to the orginal Lancs man but ill throw a few words in.

Horton ave 37.88
Lumb ave 35.48
Carberry 43.22
Morgan 36.12
Hales 36.65
Ballance 55.83
Bopara 40.26
Bell 39.67
Ali 38.77
Rogers 50.03

Just thrown in a few England players and one Aussie who he is playing against.

Personally I see a decent county player between 35-45 then anything above that as a great county player that should be playing international level.

I think that one think we always forget to remember is that they are also playing against better bowlers. So when an average of 37.88 over a career at amateur level maybe the best we will the average at the next level can only be harder to improve as I said before better bowlers!

In my eyes if you have two teams at the same level as each other player for player you could in theory get the same averages running through.

Are you honestly suggesting that Paul Horton should be playing international cricket?  you have lost your marbles completely! fair enough, he can grind out an innings and hang a round for a bit, but I have never seen him take an attack apart nor have I seen him play like an international player. 

[smilley792]

Are you honestly suggesting that Paul Horton should be playing international cricket?  you have lost your marbles completely! fair enough, he can grind out an innings and hang a round for a bit, but I have never seen him take an attack apart nor have I seen him play like an international player.

Nope, he's just suggesting Horton has a decent enough average to suggest he's not robbing a living. As previously accused.

[tailender]

Oh... so where you say any player averaging over 35 should be playing international cricket.... you didn't mean that?

Horton, like many other players on the county circuit (and I don't wish to single out Horton I just used him as an example because I am a lancs fan) play week in week out and never seem to do anything.  Hortons average has benefited from the fact that he had 2 outstanding years.

[Bulldog Cricket]

Are you guys at work ?

[TangoWhiskey]

Oh... so where you say any player averaging over 35 should be playing international cricket.... you didn't mean that?

Horton, like many other players on the county circuit (and I don't wish to single out Horton I just used him as an example because I am a lancs fan) play week in week out and never seem to do anything.  Hortons average has benefited from the fact that he had 2 outstanding years.

Read again buddy, he quite clearly says 35-45 is a decent county player and an average over 45 is international standard...

[El Nino]

Oh... so where you say any player averaging over 35 should be playing international cricket.... you didn't mean that?

Horton, like many other players on the county circuit (and I don't wish to single out Horton I just used him as an example because I am a lancs fan) play week in week out and never seem to do anything.  Hortons average has benefited from the fact that he had 2 outstanding years.

He said 35-45 are decent county players, 45+ should be playing international cricket.

[tailender]

Ah my bad.... been a long morning

[Kulli]

Oh... so where you say any player averaging over 35 should be playing international cricket.... you didn't mean that?

Horton, like many other players on the county circuit (and I don't wish to single out Horton I just used him as an example because I am a lancs fan) play week in week out and never seem to do anything.  Hortons average has benefited from the fact that he had 2 outstanding years.

It wasn't him that said it, and the guy that said it said anyone averaging over 45.

[Bats_Entertainment]

I hate it when people get obsessed with averages.

[Manormanic]

Agree with that.  You have to take into account how many of their runs were made in divisions one and two respectively, whether they had the option of a boost from time in Zimbabwe (Ballance and Horton both have) and numerous other factors...