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Re: CUSTOM MADE COMPANIES
« Reply #15 on: November 13, 2009, 10:35:33 PM »

the wise old owl !?
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« Reply #16 on: November 13, 2009, 10:45:07 PM »

matt perhaps you could regale us with stories of your humble beginnings in the batmaking world?
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Re: CUSTOM MADE COMPANIES
« Reply #17 on: November 13, 2009, 11:20:44 PM »

Just wanted to start a topic whereby the guys that have set up their own business eg SAF, Black Cat, Hell 4 Leather etc, can tell us new comers to this forum a bit about themselves? Why the name? Their experiences etc. . . I find it intriguing and would love to hear your stories  :)
Don't run my own business anymore but I'll go ahead anyway.

Aged 14, set up and ran the Fusion website. Ended up getting more friendly with them and Bill & James were great in allowing me to spend a fair bit of time at their farm learning more about the batmaking side of things. Have a lot to thank the Cornford's for. 17 set up Itias, which was derived from the word willow in Greek. The idea of the name was to have something abstract and totally different. Did a fair bit of research into what made a good company name and this stuck. Designed stickers, site and imported a few bats from around the world. Also hand finished a couple myself but to be honest it was the marketing/sales side I preferred more.

Whilst 17 went to India and spent 6 weeks hanging round factories there which gave me a further insight into manufacture of bats and softs. Couple of months after coming back it was May. I got into working for Mongoose, a new manufacturer that had launched, and ended up moving down to London. 6 months down the line and I'm still at Mongoose, which is great fun.

Brief idea of how I got into it. Any questions fire away...
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Re: CUSTOM MADE COMPANIES
« Reply #18 on: November 13, 2009, 11:31:38 PM »

Tom-

Did you ask Mongoose for a job, or did they approach you, or did you know MCF?

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Re: CUSTOM MADE COMPANIES
« Reply #19 on: November 13, 2009, 11:34:19 PM »

Bit of both. Didn't know MCF.
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Re: CUSTOM MADE COMPANIES
« Reply #20 on: November 13, 2009, 11:35:38 PM »

Charlie, how did you start Black Cat?

Dan thanks for starting this topic.. really cool..
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Re: CUSTOM MADE COMPANIES
« Reply #21 on: November 13, 2009, 11:37:41 PM »

How old are you Charlie? And how did you get into it?
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Re: CUSTOM MADE COMPANIES
« Reply #22 on: November 14, 2009, 12:13:46 AM »

Tom who runs Itias now? Do you still make bats?
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Re: CUSTOM MADE COMPANIES
« Reply #23 on: November 14, 2009, 10:13:34 AM »

17 to start up a company thats incredible!
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Re: CUSTOM MADE COMPANIES
« Reply #24 on: November 14, 2009, 10:33:11 AM »

So Tom how come you have given up Itias?
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Re: CUSTOM MADE COMPANIES
« Reply #25 on: November 14, 2009, 10:53:13 AM »

Started Black Cat because I fancied it really.  It's a bit more complicated than that but that's for another time...  I thought it would be fun/interesting/rewarding, and it is all of those things and more.

I was frustrated with the fact that so-called English quality brands were in fact importing a large chunk, if not all, of their bats from overseas.  Before you ask, I'm not a racist- I just think there is a big demand for a quality English brand that is honest in the fact that all the bats are made in England.  I conducted surveys and the level of ignorance (not by people with the knowledge of the typical CBF user, but normal people) about where/how bats are made was staggering- so I decided to push the 100% handmade in England aspect.

I decided that it was going to be a sustainable business, and have got thus far having spend £0 of my own money, mainly because I wanted to show that anyone can do it, and money really isn't a factor.

I don't manufacture my own bats, and there are good reasons for this:

1. I'm not a batmaker- to get to the level of the batmaker I currently use would take years of practice.  To employ a batmaker would be very expensive, and a big risk if the venture doesn't work.
2. I was able to try out all sorts of manufacturers, most of whom were very keen to contract make bats for me (including some big names), so you can be sure that Black Cat bats are some of the very best anywhere.
3. If the quality falls below my high standards, I can quickly and easily resurrect this problem by changing supplier (I don't have to hire another batmaker etc.).  That said, I don't see this happening at this rate- the bats my maker produces continue to surpass my high standards.
4. I can personally focus on the business side of things. For me, cricket bat businesses should have different people managing the manufacturing and everything else, from a business perspective.  There are countless examples of cricket brands under-performing because the batmaker is/was in charge of the whole business.  All batmakers want to do is make bats, and they should be left to do this, leaving the managing of then business to someone else.

I was also frustrated by my customer service experience on a few occasions, and I'm a firm believer that a quality product and good customer service are not mutually exclusive!

Loving every minute of running my own cricket brand, and am particularly enjoying my involvement at the different levels of production, from planting/growing/felling the willow, to deciding what shapes etc the bats are, to designing the stickers and running the website.  

One final thought to finish: I sold a bat to a man the other day, which was going to be his son's birthday present.  He replied to me saying his son was so pleased with his bat, and it had really made his day.  THAT is why I do it...
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Re: CUSTOM MADE COMPANIES
« Reply #26 on: November 14, 2009, 11:16:43 AM »

Sounds a great story.
Have you set up a workshop/shop yet or not ?
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Re: CUSTOM MADE COMPANIES
« Reply #27 on: November 14, 2009, 11:19:10 AM »

In what sense..?

Shortly customers will be able to make an appointment and head down to the workshop and have a bat made there and then for them.

There won't be a shop there, though.  You can buy online, and maybe through a few retailers, but I haven't gone down that route yet.

Answer your question?
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Re: CUSTOM MADE COMPANIES
« Reply #28 on: November 14, 2009, 11:21:49 AM »

Yeah, just wondered whether you had a workshop really to go and pick up bats etc...
Sounds good to go and have your bat made there and then.
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Re: CUSTOM MADE COMPANIES
« Reply #29 on: November 14, 2009, 11:43:34 AM »

So Tom how come you have given up Itias?
Felt the market was saturated, I was only turning over a couple of grand a week during the height of the season. Every company is doing the same in cricket, i.e restickering bats and softs. And jumping on the restickering bandwagon wasn't going to make me rich or keep me busy.

Heard about Mongoose and thought I could help with the input with that, they're doing something different which is pretty unique for cricket and is why we have all the coverage.
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