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JM Kickstarter now live
« on: November 02, 2014, 02:15:59 PM »

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1450139871/julian-millichamp-cricket-bat-making-academy

Handmade JM bat for equivalent of £275, or 2 bats and a batmaking course for £1,400. Who's in?
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Re: JM Kickstarter now live
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2014, 02:54:18 PM »

saw this last night and the $400,000 target figure, some good deals if you wanted to have lessons by JM and lived in Oz. Sadly with the $2500 + flights and accomodation its as serious chunk of money but all for a fantastic project and cause.
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Re: JM Kickstarter now live
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2014, 03:22:22 PM »

I have been very surprised that no one has gone on there already with some brand related stuff. Would be a cracking way to finance the launch, raise the profile etc. better than a bank loan anyway!
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Re: JM Kickstarter now live
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2014, 05:33:41 PM »

But the important question is, if I pledge A$500 and he doesn't make the target figure do I still get my bat??
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Re: JM Kickstarter now live
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2014, 05:37:49 PM »

I don't think you pay if he doesn't get all the money. You only pay if target is hit.
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Re: JM Kickstarter now live
« Reply #5 on: November 02, 2014, 05:50:00 PM »

Kickstarter is not a great website for crowd funding. It only goes through if you get all the money. Other sites let it go ahead if you get yes if you can still deliver the produce. IMHO 400,000 is really really ambitious. I mean I do not know the ins and outs of Screaming Cat but it strikes me as odd that nobody is willing to bankroll this project.

Surely somebody would like this a juicy tax right off?

Do not get me wrong I think it is a great idea and if it was in the UK I know what I would be getting for xmas!!

If any UK bat makers want to let me know how much it would cost for me to come and make my own bat etc let me know!!!
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Re: JM Kickstarter now live
« Reply #6 on: November 02, 2014, 07:34:23 PM »

I have been very surprised that no one has gone on there already with some brand related stuff. Would be a cracking way to finance the launch, raise the profile etc. better than a bank loan anyway!

There's various reasons you can't sadly - believe me I spent enough time looking into it. Unless you had something totally unique like Mongoose did then it wouldn't be possible via kickstarter.

With regards to the JM academy - £1400 for 2 bats and 5 days' tuition - seems a fair deal to me - totally agree that the $400,000 target is a bit ambitious though, sadly can't see it reaching that without some serious investment from someone
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Re: JM Kickstarter now live
« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2014, 10:07:24 PM »

That's only 800 bats though, or say 400 bats and some aussies going to the classes...
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Re: JM Kickstarter now live
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2014, 04:25:51 PM »

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Re: JM Kickstarter now live
« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2014, 04:52:56 PM »

That's only 800 bats though, or say 400 bats and some aussies going to the classes...

Only?! That's a fair few bits of willow!
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Re: JM Kickstarter now live
« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2014, 05:35:45 PM »

Though I like the initiative and was really excited but not after I saw the course content and the fee. 5 days is way too less for someone to learn and then start his own venture. The classes are not one on one. For one on one the fee is 8000 AUD!
Also for oversees interests JM should have planned a course in UK.
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Re: JM Kickstarter now live
« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2014, 05:38:59 PM »

Though I like the initiative and was really excited but not after I saw the course content and the fee. 5 days is way too less for someone to learn and then start his own venture. The classes are not one on one. For one on one the fee is 8000 AUD!
Also for oversees interests JM should have planned a course in UK.

It couldn't possibly be 1 on 1 for $2500 - the maximum he could make would be $100,000 AUD per year which really isn't that much (excluding any bats sales of course).
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Re: JM Kickstarter now live
« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2014, 06:10:28 PM »

Well if the goal is to keep the tradition alive of hand made bats, I don't see how churning out graduates after a 5 days workshop would help. He already has a established company and would have offered apprenticeship for a period of one month for a fee and then could have selected couple of best ones to work under him for a year and take his brand forward or help them out to open their own. If  he can bring out two good bat makers every year, I would say this would be more than enough for keeping this tradition alive.
This is how he, keeley, kember learned the trait under newbery.. Working day in day out.. Churning out bats and learning along the way. This is hardly a text book thing which some one can learn in a small period of time.
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Re: JM Kickstarter now live
« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2014, 06:22:47 PM »

Well if the goal is to keep the tradition alive of hand made bats, I don't see how churning out graduates after a 5 days workshop would help.

This is hardly a text book thing which some one can learn in a small period of time.

I completely agree. If he is saying you can learn to be a podshaver in such a short period of time then I think it doesn't promote the art, it devalues it!
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Re: JM Kickstarter now live
« Reply #14 on: November 06, 2014, 07:43:26 PM »

Julian isn't claiming to make you into a Pod Shaver in 5 days. He's giving you an introduction to the craft that will give you the tools to learn and progress your own bat making.

Just look at all the people who start up brands after making a few bats thinking they are custom bat makers. If you think you're going to be the finished product after 5 days, you're having a laugh. It's a taster for those willing to put in the time and effort.

Do you wonder why he hasn't been able to take on an apprentice?
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