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Re: Knocking in Machine arrival
« Reply #30 on: November 06, 2014, 01:41:16 PM »

I may have missed it, but has Gary actually said he isn't going to round the edges? he's purchased the machine to benefit the business and improve the product. if he decides to round the edges or not that's his choice. its also his choice how he uses the machine etc. I remember Paul Bradbury telling me at the trade show that retailers were wanting it done on his bats. he told them that he hasn't had any issues and if they want them wounding they can do them themselves.

I must admit ive looked at these but its just not beneficial to me at the moment. it does look a good bit of kit and id be interested to see it working if you get chance Gary?
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Re: Knocking in Machine arrival
« Reply #31 on: November 06, 2014, 01:54:22 PM »

So would it still not be quicker to use the machine for the face of the bat and then use the mallet for the edges? Might take a bit longer than using the machine for everything but it's still an improvement on doing it all by hand.

Good point, but I think my main issue is that if I pay a four figure sum for the machine, and then another four figure sum to get it shipped to London, I would be a bit miffed if this machine only does about half of the knocking-in job for me...

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Re: Knocking in Machine arrival
« Reply #32 on: November 06, 2014, 02:02:28 PM »

I understand that, Gary, and I think it's better to provide this service than no service, but in my opinion it isn't a complete knocking-in service if it can't round the edges! Personally I wouldn't feel comfortable in taking a customer's money for a knocking-in service, handing them the bat when done and telling them: "it still needs an hour on he edges - did you want to buy a mallet to do that yourself?"

Is it a handpicked mallet :D
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Re: Knocking in Machine arrival
« Reply #33 on: November 06, 2014, 10:16:09 PM »

Good point, but I think my main issue is that if I pay a four figure sum for the machine, and then another four figure sum to get it shipped to London, I would be a bit miffed if this machine only does about half of the knocking-in job for me...
Depends on how you look at it Paul.  You might say that it allows you to knock in twice as many bats as you only have to do half the work manually. And a four figure sum for machine and shipping is less than the salary you pay someone,  who you could now have selling or distributing instead of knocking.

I guess it just depends on how you look at it and what value you see it adding to the business.
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Re: Knocking in Machine arrival
« Reply #34 on: November 07, 2014, 01:45:13 PM »

Depends on how you look at it Paul.  You might say that it allows you to knock in twice as many bats as you only have to do half the work manually. And a four figure sum for machine and shipping is less than the salary you pay someone,  who you could now have selling or distributing instead of knocking.

I guess it just depends on how you look at it and what value you see it adding to the business.

don't forget about the storage and maintenance costs, too! At least human beings can round the edges...  :)

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Re: Knocking in Machine arrival
« Reply #35 on: November 07, 2014, 01:50:23 PM »

don't forget about the storage and maintenance costs, too! At least human beings can round the edges...  :)
I'd have thought it cost more to store and maintain a human though, Paul??
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Re: Knocking in Machine arrival
« Reply #36 on: November 07, 2014, 02:30:23 PM »

I'd have thought it cost more to store and maintain a human though, Paul??

Depends on the human, and where you store them...  :)

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Re: Knocking in Machine arrival
« Reply #37 on: November 07, 2014, 04:16:09 PM »

I guess I should have assessed thee machine before posting so once it has been put through its paces a up date will follow
Regarding edges my whole life working with cricket bats a 5 min either side with the wife's rolling pin is all I have ever done and have found that this is more than enough to play with this only my thoughts though
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Re: Knocking in Machine arrival
« Reply #38 on: November 07, 2014, 05:25:22 PM »

I guess I should have assessed thee machine before posting so once it has been put through its paces a up date will follow
Regarding edges my whole life working with cricket bats a 5 min either side with the wife's rolling pin is all I have ever done and have found that this is more than enough to play with this only my thoughts though
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Gary

I use the rolling bin and bath method mate  :D
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Re: Knocking in Machine arrival
« Reply #39 on: November 07, 2014, 05:43:09 PM »

Knocking in a new bat today .. Will use the rolling pin :)
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Re: Knocking in Machine arrival
« Reply #40 on: November 07, 2014, 07:31:58 PM »

I use the rolling bin and bath method mate  :D

I have always used the bath method and have never had an edge crack...As Gary said 5 minutes or so is all it takes then hammer face, toe and right to the edge with the mallet
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Re: Knocking in Machine arrival
« Reply #41 on: January 18, 2015, 08:39:10 PM »

The Machine arrived on Friday un packed Friday night and assembly started Saturday was very pleased that the bench holding the machine has passed the test to date electrics very quickly connected not so quickly was the righting up greasing and cleaning of various runners and shafts . Next up was the old faith full bat being used as the Guinean pig clamping hitting and adjusting served it purpose well as to date 10 bats have been put through and in my op ion much better after than before .
The Edges can be done as the head can be tilted to various angles it travels from toe to splice and then traverses approx 10 mm from shoulder to shoulder and then travels from splice to toe and so on until the width of the blade has been covered .
You set the hardness of the hit by moving the hammer up or down and the speed of the machine is controlled by a dial .On one particular huge ASSEGAI 3 star which was quite soft it did leave marks across the entire blade a slight sanding made it smooth again .
Overall very pleased and CONFIDENT IT DOES THE JOB
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Re: Knocking in Machine arrival
« Reply #42 on: January 18, 2015, 08:48:03 PM »

Sounds like a result... I personally would love to see a vid of this in action. more personal curiosity than anything else.
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Re: Knocking in Machine arrival
« Reply #43 on: January 18, 2015, 08:50:08 PM »

I will attempt one me and technology not well suited😃
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Re: Knocking in Machine arrival
« Reply #44 on: January 18, 2015, 08:58:52 PM »

sounds good Gary. i imagine it'll be really useful
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