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Re: Square Toe
« Reply #15 on: November 05, 2014, 09:07:27 PM »

I don't know about stance  (because I hold my back high like Graham Gooch) but I know that there couple of areas where the square toe has helped me:

1. Flicking half volleys and yorkers from my feet to the leg side. My round toe bats would generally get feathered with this kind of shots and this pattern has appeared consistently in all my bats except for the square toe bat.

2. Hitting straight from the low end of the bat has resulted in some nice rebound and this was surprising as the bat has a aggressive duck-bill shape.
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Re: Square Toe
« Reply #16 on: November 05, 2014, 09:11:22 PM »

Just read this
Square toes are designed to increase the hitting surface  whilst lowering the centre of gravity of the bat to provides a greater swing and weight distribution of power.
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Re: Square Toe
« Reply #17 on: November 05, 2014, 09:11:43 PM »

This could very well be his preference. From what I've heard, professionals prefer a stiffer handles because they want to develop a sense of impact of the ball and the distance the ball traveling. Professional golfers also use stiffer shafts compared to amateurs who like flexible shafts.


I read that Greg Chappell used to deliberately break the handles of his bats, Paul.
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Re: Square Toe
« Reply #18 on: November 05, 2014, 09:25:31 PM »

Just read this
Square toes are designed to increase the hitting surface  whilst lowering the centre of gravity of the bat to provides a greater swing and weight distribution of power.

Would agree totally


40mm at the toe? does that not make it a touch bottom heavy.

A touch,,,, but not as much as you would think
Bats got a shorter blade/longer handle,,so picks up very very nice

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Re: Square Toe
« Reply #19 on: November 05, 2014, 10:42:17 PM »

How is the ping at the toe? I am assuming it would be the same if the blade length and handle have the same dimensions of a normal short handle bat
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Re: Square Toe
« Reply #20 on: November 06, 2014, 02:17:43 AM »

there is no ping at the toe  :)
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Re: Square Toe
« Reply #21 on: November 06, 2014, 01:49:48 PM »

something like that with greg chappell is purely a personal thing.

That was my point, really. Just because KS likes a square toe doesn't mean that's how a toe should be.
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Re: Square Toe
« Reply #22 on: November 06, 2014, 01:57:35 PM »

I don't know about stance  (because I hold my back high like Graham Gooch)



Everyone does at point of delivery nowadays?
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Re: Square Toe
« Reply #23 on: November 06, 2014, 02:47:11 PM »

What I meant is that I never tap my bat or even keep it low when getting ready for the delivery. It is always high.



Everyone does at point of delivery nowadays?
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Re: Square Toe
« Reply #24 on: November 06, 2014, 02:47:43 PM »

as long as the toe is TAPERED, it will feel equally good in the stance (as the toe will be flush against the ground).
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Re: Square Toe
« Reply #25 on: November 06, 2014, 04:33:36 PM »

I have a grade 1 MSR, given to me as a gift. It has a square toe. I can say it does not alter my stance and I can see that it could increase the likelihood of cracking. However, although the spine would indicate a mid middle, it does in fact have ping at the toe. the spine does go all the way down though.
On another point. I saw a lovely 2.7 Sabre at Somerset count sports, it has been there a while. If the/a point of applying linseed oil is to seal in the moisture, do bats that have been hanging around in warm shops suffer from a loss of /moisturesoftness?
Why don't bat manufacturers apply linseed oil before they send out bats, the cost must be minimal and it prevents the over enthusiastic new owner trying it out before it is ready. I know a few people who think oiling is an option.
Finally, I have never cracked a bat at the toe, who else has been taught to put the bat down on a Yorker and not to try to drive it through mid off.
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Re: Square Toe
« Reply #26 on: November 06, 2014, 08:19:33 PM »

Makes no difference

I use a square toe because Arron Finch and Michael Clarke do plain and simple.


I now like them the DW1 also has a square toe because i like it. Personal preference i like them if your thinking they alter things i think your thinking too much.

We do oil our bats.

I also have a non square toe makes no difference i just prefer square toe
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Re: Square Toe
« Reply #27 on: November 06, 2014, 08:48:03 PM »

I remember an article in the Cricbuzz or Cricinfo during last season IPL, that there were couple of runouts which were decided because of the toe of the bat which was not square and is rounded a bit and the round bat edge made up to the line of the crease and after that incident most of the players requested square toes rather than rounded toes and since SS is the biggest supplier of the bats in IPL obliged the players request, now makes all their range of bats with square toes. I know i need to get the proof for this and I am searching these 2 websites and upload the link as soon as I find it. Again i didn't see this run outs myself so i couldn't say the its completely true rather its a possibility.
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Re: Square Toe
« Reply #28 on: November 06, 2014, 08:51:04 PM »

It is harder to run a square toe bat that is for sure.
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Re: Square Toe
« Reply #29 on: November 06, 2014, 08:53:28 PM »

It is harder to run a square toe bat that is for sure.

Agree with you Dave on that, again it was a article I read either way i am not a fan of a square toe and i haven't and wouldn't want a bat with it.
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