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Re: Hypocrisy over Phillip Hughes?
« Reply #45 on: December 04, 2014, 10:26:15 AM »

If the broken arm was caused by a legal delivery then there can't be any action, McCracken was injured in an illegal tackle.

Hmm
Can't be any action   -  I am not so sure.
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Re: Hypocrisy over Phillip Hughes?
« Reply #46 on: December 04, 2014, 06:00:43 PM »

Before the Phil Hughes tragedy hitting someone with a bouncer was awesome. I saw Brett Lee take Parore's helmet off which then fell on his stumps and the Aussies and crowd were in heaven. Anyone who tells me that Bouncers are not meant to hit someone is lying. We will see what this incident now does for bowling bouncers however.
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Re: Hypocrisy over Phillip Hughes?
« Reply #47 on: December 04, 2014, 06:04:33 PM »

Before the Phil Hughes tragedy hitting someone with a bouncer was awesome. I saw Brett Lee take Parore's helmet off which then fell on his stumps and the Aussies and crowd were in heaven. Anyone who tells me that Bouncers are not meant to hit someone is lying. We will see what this incident now does for bowling bouncers however.
It will make batsmen more cautious for a time and bowlers more determined. Other than that, very little.
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Re: Hypocrisy over Phillip Hughes?
« Reply #48 on: December 05, 2014, 07:57:28 AM »

Phil Hughes getting hit has nothing to do with Michael Clarke. It is what it is, a very unfortunate accident. The Anderson/Clarke situation was ugly and not how I play the game but it was clear that Anderson had a few choice words to say to Bailey and Clarke which wouldn't have been pleasant either. If Anderson was unfortunate/Stupid enough to get his arm broken the ball after getting told to get ready for broken arm (as long as it wasnt a beam ball) it really comes down to him. Things might change now because fast bowlers when thinking of hurting a batsman will have a thought that they might kill them rather than just rattle them.   
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Re: Hypocrisy over Phillip Hughes?
« Reply #49 on: December 05, 2014, 08:46:20 AM »

I do want to point out that I would prefer the game to not have instances such as the Anderson/Clarke one.
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Re: Hypocrisy over Phillip Hughes?
« Reply #50 on: December 05, 2014, 08:55:46 AM »


Phil Hughes getting hit has nothing to do with Michael Clarke. It is what it is, a very unfortunate accident. The Anderson/Clarke situation was ugly and not how I play the game but it was clear that Anderson had a few choice words to say to Bailey and Clarke which wouldn't have been pleasant either. If Anderson was unfortunate/Stupid enough to get his arm broken the ball after getting told to get ready for broken arm (as long as it wasnt a beam ball) it really comes down to him. Things might change now because fast bowlers when thinking of hurting a batsman will have a thought that they might kill them rather than just rattle them.

The fact that Clarke's comments were aimed at injuring a player, should not rest on a batsman. It is pure intimidation and against the spirit of the game and the rules.

This behaviour, believing it is ok to injure someone to win is probably a factor in the Phil Hughes tragedy.

Look at New Zealand's recent test. Supposedly didn't bowl a bouncer and beat Pakistan and compare it to the previous one when they fractured a guy's skull and cheered when he fell on his stumps.

Attitude should change.

Trying to hurt someone to get them off the field of play should not be there in cricket.




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Re: Hypocrisy over Phillip Hughes?
« Reply #51 on: December 05, 2014, 11:51:16 AM »

The fact that Clarke's comments were aimed at injuring a player, should not rest on a batsman. It is pure intimidation and against the spirit of the game and the rules.

This behaviour, believing it is ok to injure someone to win is probably a factor in the Phil Hughes tragedy.

Look at New Zealand's recent test. Supposedly didn't bowl a bouncer and beat Pakistan and compare it to the previous one when they fractured a guy's skull and cheered when he fell on his stumps.

Attitude should change.

Trying to hurt someone to get them off the field of play should not be there in cricket.




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I completely agree with you that attitudes do need to change. However trying to draw the link to Phil Hughes death is far fetched, I was watching the game live online and there was no verbal jousting going on between Abbott and Hughes and when he was hit everyone went to his aid.
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Re: Hypocrisy over Phillip Hughes?
« Reply #52 on: December 05, 2014, 01:00:31 PM »

Clarke should have been banned for what he said to Anderson no wonder behaviour on the pitch at all levels is in decline.
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Re: Hypocrisy over Phillip Hughes?
« Reply #53 on: December 06, 2014, 08:07:39 AM »

Garbage.
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Re: Hypocrisy over Phillip Hughes?
« Reply #54 on: December 06, 2014, 08:19:58 AM »

Clarke should have been banned for what he said to Anderson no wonder behaviour on the pitch at all levels is in decline.

Funniest thing I have ever heard
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Re: Hypocrisy over Phillip Hughes?
« Reply #55 on: December 06, 2014, 08:37:17 AM »

Clarke should have been banned for what he said to Anderson no wonder behaviour on the pitch at all levels is in decline.

Behaviour in general is in decline, but it's got nothin to do with Clarke's particular instance of 'sledging'. His is merely a symptom of what is happening but you couldn't ban him without banning players like Swann, Anderson, Siddle, Broad, Prior who all can't keep their mouth shut.


Would I like the game to be played in a good spirit, of course, it'd be more enjoyable a game
Do I think it ever will...  Not a hope. Football culture is here to stay so we might as well either join in or just accept the foul abuse that will happen every Saturday. I call it abuse because 99%of th time it's not witty, clever or amusing, it's soley aimed at belittling the batsmen, so is abuse not banter or sledging.
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Re: Hypocrisy over Phillip Hughes?
« Reply #56 on: December 06, 2014, 10:35:46 AM »

Garbage.


Hmmm

So intimidation and threats to hurt another player during a match are   except able ?
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Re: Hypocrisy over Phillip Hughes?
« Reply #57 on: December 06, 2014, 10:39:11 AM »

Fair chance such talk/chat has been going on for many years, however with the introduction of technology we are now able to hear it first hand.

No different to all the cheap shots that used to happen in rugby, afl etc.
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Re: Hypocrisy over Phillip Hughes?
« Reply #58 on: December 06, 2014, 11:03:46 AM »

And equally as witless and pointless. I'd hope we hold ourselves to a higher standard than football players.
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Re: Hypocrisy over Phillip Hughes?
« Reply #59 on: December 06, 2014, 12:44:24 PM »

^ I agree. For some of us where we play cricket, it is a new but a fast growing sport. All it will take is one bad incident to give the sport a black eye. We need better role models. This whole "sledging "nonsense has got to stop at the international level where young and impressionable might mistake it for "acceptable" behavior.
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