Topic: M&H Apprenticeship in Batmaking (Read 16915 times)

Northern monkey · « **Reply #15 on:** December 22, 2014, 06:00:21 PM »

Quote from: JB on December 22, 2014, 05:43:20 PM

I got more than that when I was 16, more than 17 years ago!

Yup I know
I got �125 thirty years ago, some of the other lads on the same first year were earning �200 plus
Heartbreaking for teenagers really,,,the company I work for now, pay apprentices the minimum , yet they do the same work as full qualified bench joiners on �12 an hour.

I'm not sure what millichamp and hall actually make these days, but it's still gotta be a start in the industry?

cricketbadger · « **Reply #16 on:** December 22, 2014, 08:39:23 PM »

Would love to dp it, even if its not quite as good an oportunity as what b3 offered at the start of the year, which i should have applied for.

Sadly not much chance of me movin down to taunton or commuting from Bradford every day

would the wage still be 2.73 an hour for a 24 year old? Does sound like slave labour, but if your keen to get into the industry and learn the skills, then its a small price to pay for a year and you'd just have to deal with it. Probably another part time job to bump up the wage

Bats_Entertainment · « **Reply #17 on:** December 22, 2014, 10:03:38 PM »

Disgraceful really, when they charge as much as they much as they do for their bats.

ItsJustCricket · « **Reply #18 on:** December 22, 2014, 10:09:56 PM »

Quote from: Bats_Entertainment on December 22, 2014, 10:03:38 PM

Disgraceful really, when they charge as much as they much as they do for their bats.

I think the price of their bats is irrelevant. At least they are offering something, unlike most others atm...

Bats_Entertainment · « **Reply #19 on:** December 22, 2014, 10:15:34 PM »

Disgraceful, whichever way you look at it.

ItsJustCricket · « **Reply #20 on:** December 22, 2014, 10:20:25 PM »

Quote from: SOULMAN1012 on December 22, 2014, 04:13:14 PM

Maybe a harsh statement but do you need an apprentice to put stickers on pre made bats ?

Like I said maybe harsh as I think they do a little shaping but when I was last there didn't have the machinery to make a bat from start to finish but that was a while ago. Still a great opportunity to get into the industry if the money is good for someone to start on its a excellent link into the world of cricket

I was there two weeks ago and they had quite a lot of machinery in there then...

joeljonno · « **Reply #21 on:** December 22, 2014, 10:35:28 PM »

Apprenticeships are more than just the pay. There is a whole lot more to them.

Full training and a qualification at the end with on the job knowledge.

It's a very good introduction into work and into the industry for someone keen to do it.

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Seniorplayer · « **Reply #22 on:** December 22, 2014, 10:49:35 PM »

As a college employee and someone responsible for apprentices the problem is and I am not suggesting m&h are going to do it after 2 years many company's finish apprentices and start again.

Ayrtek Cricket · « **Reply #23 on:** December 22, 2014, 11:15:01 PM »

Surely this is a positive thing given that even the great Julian Millichamp has aired his worries about the hand bat making craft being a dying art and his efforts to start up an academy sadly was not successful in gaining sufficient funding.

An apprenticeship is a 2 way street, someone young and interested in the industry gets to learn the skills of the job and tasks involved and also gets a small financial benefit from it, whilst the company offering the training gets someone to help out and pass the skills onto hopefully with the aim of moving them through the ranks once they are ready....there is also the chance they get some funding from the gov for taking someone on too 😀

Gingerbusiness · « **Reply #24 on:** December 22, 2014, 11:15:25 PM »

Quote from: joeljonno on December 22, 2014, 10:35:28 PM

Apprenticeships are more than just the pay. There is a whole lot more to them.

Full training and a qualification at the end with on the job knowledge.

It's a very good introduction into work and into the industry for someone keen to do it.

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If run for their primary purpose - that's what is being said here.

Kids are less likely to demand a contract based on SMART objectives leading to permanent employment on completion.

You have to remember this is just people looking for a balanced argument. Who's knows really! The apprentice may end up being a master batmaker one day!

Buzz · « **Reply #25 on:** December 22, 2014, 11:35:32 PM »

has anyone actually asked M and H about the job?

until someone has we can't cast aspersions about what a well known brand is doing. if they are paying the going rate based on demand for the jobs then we can't argue.

as far as I am aware there are very few who have become millionaires from pod shaving.

who says all they are doing is stickering up pre mades?

seems a whole lot of accusations here, with little firm evidence. if it is from the reliable mouth of the dark Lord, then we have problems.

personally I know nothing about M and H bats other than the always look great, but are out of my price range. my assumption (as that is what everyone is doing) is that very few people have been into the workshop and asked outright or know the m and H business model, so my suggestion is we don't make stuff up based in heresay from conflicted or unreliable sources. please.

Tom · « **Reply #26 on:** December 22, 2014, 11:38:14 PM »

http://alexanderdavidson.photoshelter.com/gallery-image/Millichamp-and-Hall-Workshop/G0000yZPhbixEPaQ/I0000zvbLElL7aAo/C0000mXEFxT4Z9hY

This photo shows just a few of the machines in the workshop

Nmcgee · « **Reply #27 on:** December 23, 2014, 04:03:12 AM »

I think its a great opportunity for someone looking to get into the industry. We all started out as trainees, interns, apprentices, etc on subpar wages, often for large companies with big turnovers.

Bats_Entertainment · « **Reply #28 on:** December 23, 2014, 10:47:15 AM »

Quote from: Seniorplayer on December 22, 2014, 10:49:35 PM

As a college employee and someone responsible for apprentices the problem is and I am not suggesting m&h are going to do it after 2 years many company's finish apprentices and start again.

Seems likely.

Dan W · « **Reply #29 on:** December 23, 2014, 10:52:27 AM »

Quote from: Bats_Entertainment on December 23, 2014, 10:47:15 AM

Seems likely.

On what grounds?!

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