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abdulwq

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Thoughts and Suggestions for Improvement of my BB
« on: December 30, 2014, 04:04:55 AM »

Hello mates,
Took a couple of clips from Batting and Bowling though video quality is not great:( so would like experts to comment and criticize to improve my game.
I have been out of game for a couple of years due to marriage and then family and in the mean i have lost my technique.
Shortly about myself I used to bat very good and open for my club averaging around 40s and as a bowler paced around 60-65mph( rough idea) with new ball and can move ball both ways but now all of that seems never existed, have fear of ball hitting my ribs while batting, cuts are gone as right foot now does not move much, pulls,hooks, flicks and all of square leg area i have always been weak, at bowling the pace is not there at all although my line is quite good.
Net session at Myllypyro Dec 2014

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Re: Thoughts and Suggestions for Improvement of my BB
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2014, 08:08:49 AM »


If you're coming out of a long hiatus, do some throwdown sessions where you are just driving the ball in a V. I have found that Deliberate throwdown sessions with clear objectives are far more productive than just batting in a net session. Once you feel that you have revived or improved the basic batting technique, then you can move to tactics and that is where in that bowling session will help.

You're playing the quicks away from your body and in the first 40 to 50 seconds, I saw you slicing and edging the quick bowlers. There is no foot movement against quicks ( or medium pacers) but you are moving your feet against the spinners. Another thing I noticed is that your head seems to be falling over. Try standing up right, move your feet, and get closer to the ball before striking. Throwdown's will help.

My two cents.



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Re: Thoughts and Suggestions for Improvement of my BB
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2014, 12:36:40 PM »

If you were one of my colts Id suggest a slightly longer run up. You seem to be trying to get to top speed to quickly. All looks a bit rushed. Watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbJoSF3YGSU
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Re: Thoughts and Suggestions for Improvement of my BB
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2014, 12:29:38 AM »

If you're coming out of a long hiatus, do some throwdown sessions where you are just driving the ball in a V. I have found that Deliberate throwdown sessions with clear objectives are far more productive than just batting in a net session. Once you feel that you have revived or improved the basic batting technique, then you can move to tactics and that is where in that bowling session will help.

You're playing the quicks away from your body and in the first 40 to 50 seconds, I saw you slicing and edging the quick bowlers. There is no foot movement against quicks ( or medium pacers) but you are moving your feet against the spinners. Another thing I noticed is that your head seems to be falling over. Try standing up right, move your feet, and get closer to the ball before striking. Throwdown's will help.

My two cents.
I really appreciate your two cents:)I will start from throwdowns hitting in V perfecting the timing.I do think my head falls over but would like to know what is it causing?
How do i get over the fear of ball hitting at chest which keeps me playing away from body?
Also would like someone to tell proper technique for pull shot ?
If you were one of my colts Id suggest a slightly longer run up. You seem to be trying to get to top speed to quickly. All looks a bit rushed. Watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbJoSF3YGSU
Seen that before, just saw it once again....Yes i might be rushing to bowl quick as the main reason is mates teasing me about my pace and how slow i have been.
I am quite a bit overweight and have started strength & conditioning for a month with some improvement in my pace so i think it will take some time to get back.
Being 33years what would you suggest the length of run up? how important is long run up? I tend to bowl rushly my overs and i think long run up might tire me up quick.
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Re: Thoughts and Suggestions for Improvement of my BB
« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2014, 03:38:47 AM »

Hi,

Starting with the batting, each shot seems to be pre-meditated and rushed due to the amount of movement you do prior to even beginning the lift of the bat- which highlights your hesitancy at the crease that may be down to your fear of getting one in the chest. Furthermore, being so busy around the crease is not the worst thing in the world but while you are moving significantly all over the place it reduces your reactive ability to the pitch and line of the ball (thus resulting in some of the nick-offs). In the second shot that you play, you can notice a significant 'bounce'  just after you play the shot which is primarily down to an excess amount of force as you drop into the cover drive. This is as you have swung through the shot without coordinating the whole of your bodily motion to commence at the same time, ending up with your body playing catch up on itself to maintain balance by dropping the back leg quicker. On the other hand it is then the opposite way round when you attempt the sweep, by lowering your centre of mass you become more balanced. However, now your arms are playing catch up because you have pre-emptively gone for a shot. I reckon that your back probably hurt a tiny bit when your arms swung through and then after reaching its point of bind it pinged back slightly which made you off balance. What i would suggest for the coordination is probably, without the bat initially just attempt to pad the ball and get your hands moving in time with the plantation of your front foot towards the ball. Then borrow a really light bat so that you have to focus more on coordinating correctly and controlling the bat speed as you go through,  by doing so you will slowly adapt to playing through each shot slower in relation to the bat. Once you are able to play the shots within the V with control, you will notice that the shot power will come with how you are able to control each shot.

On your point about cuts, pulls etc. Start with (not being patronising) a incrediball being thrown underarm towards your mid section to build your confidence with each shot. What you are looking to achieve for the flicks are to make room by your hip so that you can just guide the ball down the leg side. Cuts you should be moving your right foot back and across towards the line of the ball, and with the pull shots, look towards moving like you would with the cut but less so to get the ball in line with your head so that you can play the ball on the leg side and watch the ball all the way onto the bat, it seems basic but by getting a solid foundation allows you to build up your skill set back to what it formally was.

Bowling-wise, your run-up is more of a stutter affecting your stride length and frequency that affects your acceleration substantially and as said previously you're trying to go from 0-100 in half a yard ;) but you should realistically build up your pace as you get to the end of your action. The follow through from your action shows that your motion isn't fulfilled i.e. you have still got more force to exert in the bowling action. Rather than worrying about your mates work out a paced out distance that you feel allows you to reach your quickest before getting into the bowling action... Following which, then look at your front foot directing straight down the track because in some instances in the videos it ends up pointing towards second slip which means you aren't transferring your force linearly down the track that translates into additional pace.

Sorry for the very science'y approach but being a scholar it makes things easier to explain. Hope it helped in some way, shape or form!!
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Re: Thoughts and Suggestions for Improvement of my BB
« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2014, 04:16:16 AM »

I can't offer much advice on the technical aspects of your batting but don't be shy in wearing additional protection such as a chest guard or arm guard if you want to feel more confident. Nobody is going to laugh at you when you're on 50 and if you do have some idiot bowling bouncers at you then you're onto a winner anyhow as that rules out being dismissed LBW and bowled.   
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Re: Thoughts and Suggestions for Improvement of my BB
« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2014, 04:48:28 AM »

I really appreciate your two cents:)I will start from throwdowns hitting in V perfecting the timing.I do think my head falls over but would like to know what is it causing?
How do i get over the fear of ball hitting at chest which keeps me playing away from body?
Also would like someone to tell proper technique for pull shot ?

I can't tell from your video why your head is falling over. The basic technique for driving requires a balanced position/platform for swinging the bat. You can practice that in front of a mirror. Stand without a bat in your hands, and take a forward stride as if playing an off-drive. Remain balanced, with your head above your forward knee and eyes gazing where bat will make contact with the ball. Now, swing your arms thru. You should be still be in balanced position when your arms complete the check drive.
Once you are comfortable with the basic technique, grab your bat and practice this with a ball-in-a-sock type setup.

Regarding fear of getting hit, confidence in your technique coupled with real experience of nets will get you over the fear. You can try a chest guard but I find them restrictive. Practice watching the ball (at any speed) and that will help you manage the quicks. I find Bola balls hurt more than a regular Cricket ball. :D Practice with tennis balls as they really help develop good technique and timing. So basically, 1.) practice watching the ball; 2.) practice getting in a strong balanced position (in good line of the ball) and make strong contact. Once you are comfortable doing these two, then practice backfoot defense against a short tennis ball.

There are plenty of youtube videos on Pull technique. If you can't keep your eye on the ball and are  afraid of getting hit, don't attempt a pull shot. Duck. :D
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Re: Thoughts and Suggestions for Improvement of my BB
« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2014, 08:52:20 AM »

Spend a session just trying to get out of the way of short bowling, if you take a few in the ribs you will see it doesn't hurt that much ........... its the elbow and forearm that are a pain
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Re: Thoughts and Suggestions for Improvement of my BB
« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2014, 09:58:44 AM »

I heard of someone being put in a field blindfolded and told to run and just bowl when he felt right. He repeated this a number of times and it worked out that he pretty much bowled each time after a certain number of strides. He got rid of any stutter and incontinency in his run up and has never looked back since.
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Re: Thoughts and Suggestions for Improvement of my BB
« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2014, 10:08:50 AM »

You didn't look too bad to me batting wise,,just struggling a little picking length up,(could be down to your mates bowling massive no balls like you?)
Will be lot different outside than facing those bowlers indoors

Yes, your run up is a little rushed,,,not the end of the world
You again looked a half decent bowler

Work on your fitness,,and enjoy your cricket

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Re: Thoughts and Suggestions for Improvement of my BB
« Reply #10 on: December 31, 2014, 10:18:00 AM »

Spend a session just trying to get out of the way of short bowling, if you take a few in the ribs you will see it doesn't hurt that much ........... its the elbow and forearm that are a pain

I had my spleen Ruptured by a short ball. Trust me it hurt ALOT!



I have a stretton fox chest guard now. After a few balls I forget it's there certainly doesn't restrict me.
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Re: Thoughts and Suggestions for Improvement of my BB
« Reply #11 on: December 31, 2014, 10:36:28 AM »

Okay having watched the video 4 times apart from one attempt at swinging across the line of the ball your shot selection looks correct when you fail to connect properly or miss the ball the problem is picking the length and timing understandable which will improve with practice  particular  outdoor.
Also you could try opening your  stance feet around nine inches apart.
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Re: Thoughts and Suggestions for Improvement of my BB
« Reply #12 on: December 31, 2014, 10:54:37 AM »

Good on you for getting back into the game. Some nice shots played and you clearly have a good technique. However, do you may grip the bat tightly with the right hand?
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