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Can I return a 'dead' bat for a refund?
« on: January 01, 2015, 08:09:43 AM »


I recently bought several bats for christmas presents for my children one of which after use in nets would seem to be a complete plank.  These are custom bats from a top end maker costing over £200.  I would be intrigued to get the forums views:  Does a bat have to be 'fit for purpose' and therefore a dud should be replaced or once you pay your money and leave the premises it is down to luck with no come back on the maker?

I realise that the bat may come to life with more use but if it doesn't it would seem to me that it is harder to return once it has had a lot of use.
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Re: Can I return a 'dead' bat for a refund?
« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2015, 08:38:43 AM »

B3 has a no quibble guarantee. So you can return them no questions asked...... Other bats not so easily.


I had a gray nics powerbow extreme that was a plank. Complained to gray nics. They said "knock it in" spent about 12hrs on it and had 15 nets with it and it was still a plank.
Gray nics said return it and we'll have a look.
2 weeks later I got an email claiming the bat was fine in there opinion, so they hadnt done anythjng with it and on its way back.  .

You could tell they'd re pressed it, used steam to get the edge indents back to shape(inclding a few burnt sections) and all new stickers to replace the old ones that were marked and cracked from nets.

It was still a plank. And still is(sat in our net club bag). I'm more disgusted that gray nics denied touching it than actually them not replacing it to be honest.
Bad service. 
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Re: Can I return a 'dead' bat for a refund?
« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2015, 08:39:41 AM »

Have you spoken to the bat maker in question?
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Re: Can I return a 'dead' bat for a refund?
« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2015, 09:01:00 AM »

I've had this with gray nicholls
Used and knocked it in but still dead basically Middle was size of a golf ball on £300+ bat
But thanks to retailers (forum sponsor) who agreed it was not what it should be the bat was returned and replaced but I didn't get another gn put me right of them
But it's very much about opinions you could get someone who doesn't agree then you would have a problem
Good luck don't take no for an answer if your not happy
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Re: Can I return a 'dead' bat for a refund?
« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2015, 09:01:36 AM »


B3 has a no quibble guarantee. So you can return them no questions asked...... Other bats not so easily.


I had a gray nics powerbow extreme that was a plank. Complained to gray nics. They said "knock it in" spent about 12hrs on it and had 15 nets with it and it was still a plank.
Gray nics said return it and we'll have a look.
2 weeks later I got an email claiming the bat was fine in there opinion, so they hadnt done anythjng with it and on its way back.  .

You could tell they'd re pressed it, used steam to get the edge indents back to shape(inclding a few burnt sections) and all new stickers to replace the old ones that were marked and cracked from nets.

It was still a plank. And still is(sat in our net club bag). I'm more disgusted that gray nics denied touching it than actually them not replacing it to be honest.
Bad service.

I returned a Gray Nics Millenium due to it being a dead blade, couldn't hit the ball off the wicket never mind square. Sent it back through retailer who loaned me a Slaz V800 which I got my first 50 with and offered me a refund on the GN. I bought a V800 Pro instead and somehow managed to keep the loan bat too.

Get in contact with the bat maker to see what they have to say.
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Re: Can I return a 'dead' bat for a refund?
« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2015, 09:08:04 AM »

Re occurring theme with gray nics? Problem i had was the small local retailer wanted nothing to do with it, and told me it was grays problem. And I had to sort it.

I've not bought a bat from there since and so glad to have found the forum and sponsors that have looked after me since.
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Re: Can I return a 'dead' bat for a refund?
« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2015, 09:29:31 AM »

Wow I thought mine was an isolated incident with a GN oblivion! It was the first and last gray nics I'll ever have, same story it was just dead, very small Middle and almost felt hollow if that makes sense?
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Re: Can I return a 'dead' bat for a refund?
« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2015, 10:39:20 AM »

A brand new bat should be solid as fit  for purpose. I would recommend that you  take or return the bat to where it was brought from and state why you believe that the bat is dead and ask for a refund  or another bat -    why because if you accept the bat you may lose the right to a refund at a later date should the bat fail to perform as  my understanding of the1979  sale of goods act states that you do not have an automatic right to a refund if you keep the bat for a REASONABLE  time.
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Re: Can I return a 'dead' bat for a refund?
« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2015, 10:52:16 AM »

The worst thing with mine was that it was a custom made so you would have thought they might have checked it.......
I can understand a little with the ones they don't make but for one at such a cost was really poor
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Re: Can I return a 'dead' bat for a refund?
« Reply #9 on: January 01, 2015, 11:37:16 AM »

B3 has a no quibble guarantee. So you can return them no questions asked...... Other bats not so easily.


I had a gray nics powerbow extreme that was a plank. Complained to gray nics. They said "knock it in" spent about 12hrs on it and had 15 nets with it and it was still a plank.
Gray nics said return it and we'll have a look.
2 weeks later I got an email claiming the bat was fine in there opinion, so they hadnt done anythjng with it and on its way back.  .

You could tell they'd re pressed it, used steam to get the edge indents back to shape(inclding a few burnt sections) and all new stickers to replace the old ones that were marked and cracked from nets.

It was still a plank. And still is(sat in our net club bag). I'm more disgusted that gray nics denied touching it than actually them not replacing it to be honest.
Bad service.

That's a good service from B3.  They must have a lot of confidence in their bats as this is a slightly unusual stance to take, but very good for the consumer!

I know I go on about hand-picking quite a lot on this forum, but this is a major reason why we do it.  Sending a customer a "plank" is not in anyone's best interests and they present problems when it comes to returns.  It is not covered in the warranties, so ultimately it's at the discretion of the retailer/bat maker if they choose to refund or replace such a bat.  My guess would be that most wouldn't do it, which is a shame, especially as it's the kind of thing that can be avoided through hand-picking.  You could argue that it's a manufacturing fault, so should be covered, but as it's a subjective thing, and as the bat may well improve and "open up" over time, it's a tough sell to any bat maker/retailer.

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Re: Can I return a 'dead' bat for a refund?
« Reply #10 on: January 01, 2015, 12:01:54 PM »

Out of interest Paul how many planks do you come across when you hand pick? Is there a lot or is it mainly separating the great performing ones from the average performing ones?
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Re: Can I return a 'dead' bat for a refund?
« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2015, 12:16:34 PM »

Like Paul said performance is subjective.
The GM purist I resued from a skip was apparently a plank, but even after reducing the spine so it weighed the same as a tooth pick its the best performing bat I've ever owned!
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Re: Can I return a 'dead' bat for a refund?
« Reply #12 on: January 01, 2015, 02:59:00 PM »

Have you spoken to the bat maker in question?

No not yet as they aren't open until the 4th January.  It is a tricky one as it doesn't sound totally dead when knocked up with a mallet and unless I take the maker to the local indoor nets it is impossible to prove it is a plank.  i was intrigued to get some views on the subject before I went back but I guess, as with anything subjective, there aren't any rules covering such a situation.

   
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Re: Can I return a 'dead' bat for a refund?
« Reply #13 on: January 01, 2015, 03:07:31 PM »

Such a tough one to prove
But,, that's a lot to pay. Even for a top end bat
Proper gutted for you

If it was me,,I would be on the company's doorstep the minute they opened

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Re: Can I return a 'dead' bat for a refund?
« Reply #14 on: January 01, 2015, 05:00:12 PM »

It seems a common theme that GNs haven't been the best performers. I've got 2 customs, an Oblivion LE that is an awesome bat and pings all over and an Omega which strangely pings low down and sounds really tinny where all the meat is.

I bought an E41 in the lords sale last year and passed it on to the seconds captain as I thought it was a plank. He used it through pre season nets and halfway through the season it really started to play well.  Just going to give the Omega plenty of use, where it pings is really nice it just isn't a very big area
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