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[InternalTraining]

Pace might not get wickets by itself, but name me a batsman that wants to face 150kph bowling?

Had Starc been bowling 130kph, he wouldn't have got either Bell or Taylor out.

That's only for 10 overs and not every delivery is pitched at 150 k. There are other 40 overs to score. Openers are meant to see through those 150 K bowlers.

Bell's decision was questionable. Taylor's was a clean decision.

Moeen was hitting Starc around. Faulkner got Moeen out at 130.8 k delivery and it was a mistimed shot. Virat Kohli was pulling M Johnson for boundaries in the third test.

[InternalTraining]

England were hammered. Aus lost a few cheap wickets at the end messing about thta made it appear closer. Pace isn't everything BUT.. you get away with a lot more at 150kph than at 135kph.

Team Ethic are just not good enough, simple as that.

I think it was a WC semi-final where Tendulkar and Sehwag took Shoaib Akhtar to the cleaners. Shoaib not only had pace but bad attitude to boot.

[smilley792]

Fastest ball recorded in cricket was shaob akhtar to nick knight.  101mph.
It was badly directed and knight merely flicked it off his hip.  No drama.

[Gerry SA]

That's only for 10 overs and not every delivery is pitched at 150 k. There are other 40 overs to score. Openers are meant to see through those 150 K bowlers.

Bell's decision was questionable. Taylor's was a clean decision.

Moeen was hitting Starc around. Faulkner got Moeen out at 130.8 k delivery and it was a mistimed shot. Virat Kohli was pulling M Johnson for boundaries in the third test.

Moeen is a wild slogger. Faulkner out thought him.

Kohli scored 600 odd runs in the Test series, I'd guess he was seeing it pretty well. And secondly swinging ball at 150kph is harder than facing short bowling on dead pitches.

[Sam]

Sorry but I disagree with those attempting to use stats to claim Bopara is useless in the side. In the last year or 2 he's been dumped down the order at mostly 7, somewhere completely unnatural to him and his typical playing style, yet has been told to play the finishing role/slog a few in the last few innings. Clearly this is never going to represent well on stats. His bowling can also be very useful at times dependent on the pitch with his variations making him very economical.

[Gerry SA]

Sorry but I disagree with those attempting to use stats to claim Bopara is useless in the side. In the last year or 2 he's been dumped down the order at mostly 7, somewhere completely unnatural to him and his typical playing style, yet has been told to play the finishing role/slog a few in the last few innings. Clearly this is never going to represent well on stats. His bowling can also be very useful at times dependent on the pitch with his variations making him very economical.

There's a reason for that. Bopara wasted numerous chances up the order.

[ProCricketer1982]

I can not be bothered to find out examples because.. well, I just can't be bothered...but I'm sure there are  many examples of 150kph bowlers tearing apart batsmen.

[InternalTraining]

^ Holding, Marshall, Waqar, Wasim, Akhtar et-al...they were a class apart and they are not bowling in WC 2015. They did not have sheer pace...they had swing and guile.

[FattusCattus]

I think it prooves that Starc and Johnson offer something a little different, and we have a very, very samey attack.

I may enjoy some of our batting this World Cup, but it's going to be a bit ouchy watcher the bowlers.

Why is Anderson there if he's not fully fit?

[InternalTraining]

Moeen is a wild slogger. Faulkner out thought him.

Kohli scored 600 odd runs in the Test series, I'd guess he was seeing it pretty well. And secondly swinging ball at 150kph is harder than facing short bowling on dead pitches.

I am sure it is but how many bowlers in the WC 2015 can do that? And, that was my original point. The rest will have to find ways of taking wickets which includes filed placement, out thinking batsmen etc etc etc.

[FattusCattus]

I suppose one wonders how many of the English bowlers are 'thinking bowlers'

Tredwell?

[A-Swing-And-A-Miss]

How is Finn still getting a central contract? Back when he was bowling 140-150kph the combination of the bounce and small amount of movement made him very effective, now he's bowling in the mid 130's and at that pace batsmen are able to cope easily against the gentle movement he creates.

At international level you either need someone who can ramp it up, or someone who can get the ball to really talk. Finn is doing neither right now and poses no real threat with either the new nor the old ball.

[Gerry SA]

How is Finn still getting a central contract? Back when he was bowling 140-150kph the combination of the bounce and small amount of movement made him very effective, now he's bowling in the mid 130's and at that pace batsmen are able to cope easily against the gentle movement he creates.

At international level you either need someone who can ramp it up, or someone who can get the ball to really talk. Finn is doing neither right now and poses no real threat with either the new nor the old ball.

Tell me about, back a few years ago he was the only English bowler worth watching. 150kph bounce, menace. Wicket taker. Thanks to the ECB he looks like he's bowling with a shuttlecock these days...

[The Palmist]

India in all sorts of trouble. What was Kohli thinking with that shot.

[The Palmist]

Aussies turning  up their  bullying tactics  yet again. The number of times  this team has gone away with such behaviour  is amazing.