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[arsenal123]

I like the idea of sub 30 being the sign of a world class bowler!  In which case in test cricket England currently have 3 seamers and a spinner all in the WC category!  How could we have possibly lost the last Ashes and drew with Sri Lanka at home?!  (Anderson, Broad, Finn, Swann then Ali)

[ProCricketer1982]

I thought sub 20 was world class ? Like now batting is 55+ avg

30 makes Flintoff nearly world class.. Now, on his day he was...overall, probably not

[arsenal123]

If sub 20 was World Class then there's not many bowlers in recent history who fit that criteria!

[edge]

If sub 20 was World Class then there's not many bowlers in recent history who fit that criteria!

Given a minimum of 1000 balls, 5 guys ever in ODIs. Sub 30 probably a reasonable yardstick for bowling average. For me world class means a player of good international quality, not a legend of the game.

[procricket]

World class is at the time world class maybe a period of a few months but to say Anderson is not up there overall with the best in the world (yardstick) currently is (No Swearing Please).

World class Yes
Legend of the Game No

Edgr has it spot on do not get confused by world class and legend

[Gerry SA]

World class is at the time world class maybe a period of a few months but to say Anderson is not up there overall with the best in the world (yardstick) currently is (No Swearing Please).

World class Yes
Legend of the Game No

Edgr has it spot on do not get confused by world class and legend

Being one dimensional and only having the ability to look 'world class' on raging green tops doesn't make anyone world class.

Anderson has never been world class apart from in the eyes of deluded English media and fans.

[edge]

I'm sure it was Anderson I was watching the other morning bowling a superb spell on a dry, flat, grassless wicket... Was it not him?

You must be loving all this debate Gerry...

[Gerry SA]

I'm sure it was Anderson I was watching the other morning bowling a superb spell on a dry, flat, grassless wicket... Was it not him?

You must be loving all this debate Gerry...

So because it happens so rarely you can remember it vividly? Hardly world class. Average try hard clubbie.

[ProCricketer1982]

I was just stating some numbers for debate. My opinion for what it's worth is world class is over used in sports in the modern era.. You hear it all the time ' oh player x is world class', when in fact, they aren't, it's just a good bit of form.

Now, what figure you out on it is something personal I believe. Just because you believe player x is world class does t make him wc. Just because PR says he is isn't either. I personally think modern batting means you need massive avg to be wc, but hat would count out a lot of past players.. So it's subjectove to the era as well...

Is Warner world class?? Is he really in the class of ponting? Bradman.. Or is he a product of flat wickets, poor bowling and small outfields? All subjective. Do I think Anderson is world class.. No. However, he has days when he is. Overall I don't think he's a patch on mcgraths, Warner, curtly etc oh and Gerry, Steyn isn't looking to good currently.. Getting a bit slow in his old age.

[Sam]

So because it happens so rarely you can remember it vividly? Hardly world class. Average try hard clubbie.

Can't even remember Steyn doing that good figures wise in any ODI match in Australia in my distant (as opposed to recent) memory so I guess at least Anderson's actually done it.

[Gerry SA]

Steyn could bowl off breaks and still be better than Anderson.

[Gerry SA]

Can't even remember Steyn doing that good in any ODI match in Australia in my distant (as opposed to recent) memory so I guess at least Anderson's actually done it I guess.

You mean anderson bullied india, whom I might remind you haven't won a game on tour.

Anderson will get his handed to him on Friday.

[Sam]

The same India who have won a higher proportion of their ODI matches than South Africa in the last 3 years as well as being current holders of both ODI trophies.... and it's not like that came about by their stunning bowling lineup.

[ProCricketer1982]

Steyn could bowl off breaks and still be better than Anderson.

Spin.. Umm you have tahir.. I think billy root is better than him

[Gerry SA]

The same India who have won a higher proportion of their ODI matches than South Africa in the last 3 years as well as being current holders of both ODI trophies.... and it's not like that came about by their stunning bowling lineup.

Call it what you like.

Anderson is a stiff who goes missing whenever the pressure is on.

Greentop king has had one half decent effort and its like he's a world beater.