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Gerry SA

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Re: Eng v Aus v Ind Tri-Series
« Reply #165 on: January 21, 2015, 08:02:51 PM »

Spin.. Umm you have tahir.. I think billy root is better than him
Imran Tahir 50+ ODI poles at 20. #YoureWelcome
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Re: Eng v Aus v Ind Tri-Series
« Reply #166 on: January 21, 2015, 08:07:40 PM »

I was just stating some numbers for debate. My opinion for what it's worth is world class is over used in sports in the modern era.. You hear it all the time ' oh player x is world class', when in fact, they aren't, it's just a good bit of form.

Now, what figure you out on it is something personal I believe. Just because you believe player x is world class does t make him wc. Just because PR says he is isn't either. I personally think modern batting means you need massive avg to be wc, but hat would count out a lot of past players.. So it's subjectove to the era as well...

Is Warner world class?? Is he really in the class of ponting? Bradman.. Or is he a product of flat wickets, poor bowling and small outfields? All subjective. Do I think Anderson is world class.. No. However, he has days when he is. Overall I don't think he's a patch on mcgraths, Warner, curtly etc oh and Gerry, Steyn isn't looking to good currently.. Getting a bit slow in his old age.
This is exactly what I mean, a lot of people misunderstand what the phrase means. 'World class' is a CURRENT term. Saying someone is world class doesn't mean you're saying they're as good as Bradman/Ponting or Warne/McGrath/Akram, it means they are among the best in the world currently. It's clearly possible to be among the best in the world at something without being the best ever. Think on the meaning of the word class.

Gerry, at this rate you're going to need a bigger boat.
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Re: Eng v Aus v Ind Tri-Series
« Reply #167 on: January 21, 2015, 08:34:17 PM »

Call it what you like.

Anderson is a stiff who goes missing whenever the pressure is on.

Greentop king has had one half decent effort and its like he's a world beater.

Yes world beater what his ranking

as i have said earns alot for being a clubbie mate i suspect you do not play pal because he is some clubbie :D
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Re: Eng v Aus v Ind Tri-Series
« Reply #168 on: January 21, 2015, 08:35:13 PM »

Hell lets hope your chokers dont choke again Gerry at the world cup
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Re: Eng v Aus v Ind Tri-Series
« Reply #169 on: January 21, 2015, 09:22:00 PM »

Anderson would not have taken 380 tests wickets if he wasn't  up there with worlds best.
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Re: Eng v Aus v Ind Tri-Series
« Reply #170 on: January 21, 2015, 09:59:25 PM »

Anderson would not have taken 380 tests wickets if he was up there with worlds best.
Common logic shows that england play more Tests per year than any other country.

Had Steyn played the same number he'd be up near 400 poles. And johnson would be up near 450 poles.

Anderson is all quantity. Not quality. And of course raging green tops.
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Re: Eng v Aus v Ind Tri-Series
« Reply #171 on: January 21, 2015, 10:15:55 PM »

And I presume Steyn and Johnson are both bouncy track bullies judging by the fact neither of them have ever really had stunners (or matched Anderson for that matter) in test cricket in England and generally perform better in home conditions ???.
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Re: Eng v Aus v Ind Tri-Series
« Reply #172 on: January 21, 2015, 10:27:05 PM »

And I presume Steyn and Johnson are both bouncy track bullies judging by the fact neither of them have ever really had stunners (or matched Anderson for that matter) in test cricket in England and generally perform better in home conditions ???.
Again you're wrong.

For the sake of fair comparison its anderson vs sa in eng and steyn vs eng in eng.

Anderson has 39 wickets @ 37.76.

Steyn has 23 wickets @ 31.65.

So clearly not as great as his career average, Steyn still owns Anderson in his own backyard.
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Re: Eng v Aus v Ind Tri-Series
« Reply #173 on: January 21, 2015, 10:52:54 PM »

Again you're wrong.

For the sake of fair comparison its anderson vs sa in eng and steyn vs eng in eng.

Anderson has 39 wickets @ 37.76.

Steyn has 23 wickets @ 31.65.

So clearly not as great as his career average, Steyn still owns Anderson in his own backyard.

How does that make it any fairer a comparison than mine?  Comparing Anderson's stats v what is probably the best batting lineup in the world to Steyns stats v what I'm sure you would claim is/was a poor batting attack?
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Re: Eng v Aus v Ind Tri-Series
« Reply #174 on: January 22, 2015, 12:46:20 PM »

Interesting mind games before tomorrow's game by the Aussies:
http://www.espncricinfo.com/carlton-mid-triangular-series-2015/content/story/822983.html
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Re: Eng v Aus v Ind Tri-Series
« Reply #175 on: January 22, 2015, 06:42:59 PM »

Interesting mind games before tomorrow's game by the Aussies:
http://www.espncricinfo.com/carlton-mid-triangular-series-2015/content/story/822983.html
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I'm really hoping for something along the lines of:

"Eoin - how do you respond to the allegations of an embarrassing information about a relationship with an Australian woman five years ago"

"Yeah, I met her in a club, went back to hers and f*cked her right in the pussy, it was a good evening and I  was safe and used protection, a fake mobile number"
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Re: Eng v Aus v Ind Tri-Series
« Reply #176 on: January 22, 2015, 06:51:12 PM »

Not quite worthy of a new thread so thought I'd just add it in here, Cooks just been named in the squad for the Abu Dhabi season opener v Yorkshire, but Compton has been announced as captain and Carberrys in there as well, can see there being some interesting conversations there  :D.
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Re: Eng v Aus v Ind Tri-Series
« Reply #177 on: January 22, 2015, 07:14:15 PM »

Not quite worthy of a new thread so thought I'd just add it in here, Cooks just been named in the squad for the Abu Dhabi season opener v Yorkshire, but Compton has been announced as captain and Carberrys in there as well, can see there being some interesting conversations there  :D.

 So, in their last 12 months of their eng careers... Who avg'd what?

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Re: Eng v Aus v Ind Tri-Series
« Reply #178 on: January 22, 2015, 07:30:48 PM »

Not quite worthy of a new thread so thought I'd just add it in here, Cooks just been named in the squad for the Abu Dhabi season opener v Yorkshire, but Compton has been announced as captain and Carberrys in there as well, can see there being some interesting conversations there  :D.

Especially with Lees and Lyth in the oppostion?
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Re: Eng v Aus v Ind Tri-Series
« Reply #179 on: January 22, 2015, 07:34:02 PM »

And the answer is :D :

Compton 31.93
Cook - 30.95
Carberry 28.10
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