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Re: English T20
« Reply #30 on: January 16, 2015, 07:17:10 PM »

is there seriously enough talent around for 21 counties? There isn't really enough quality for the 18 we have now
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Re: English T20
« Reply #31 on: January 16, 2015, 07:44:28 PM »

I wouldn't see it much different than integrating the minor counties with the current ones.
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Re: English T20
« Reply #32 on: January 16, 2015, 08:27:39 PM »

Interesting reading here. Was chatting to a lad at work and we were trying to work out which cities \ venues you could use. Came up with 1) Lords 2) Oval 3) Hampshire 4) Taunton 5) Birmingham 6) Manchester 7) Hedingley 8) Durham 9) Trent Bridge 10)Glamorgan

If you picked those as the 'franchise' venues surely the remaining counties will grumble about a loss of income. We thought about grouping teams geographically ie South West = Somerset and Gloucester or  West MIDs Worcestershire and Warwickshire etc. Games could be played at both grounds to split the revenue.

Seems whatever is picked a group of people is not going to be happy!
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Re: English T20
« Reply #33 on: January 16, 2015, 08:30:31 PM »

George Dobell sums up my views on cricinfo today.
 
phone.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/story/821153.html

actually I think he is now one of the best cricket journalists out there.
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Re: English T20
« Reply #34 on: January 16, 2015, 09:17:51 PM »

I wouldn't see it much different than integrating the minor counties with the current ones.

to me that's a no then. Seriously, the minor counties aren't very strong so that to me tells me there is not enough quality to warrant more pro's. I already think there are a fair few low quality players on the circuit.. let alone introducing more.
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Re: English T20
« Reply #35 on: January 16, 2015, 09:27:46 PM »

George Dobell sums up my views on cricinfo today.
 
phone.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/story/821153.html

actually I think he is now one of the best cricket journalists out there.

Thanks for the link Buzz. A really enjoyable and balanced article
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Re: English T20
« Reply #36 on: January 24, 2015, 11:42:39 AM »

Nice to see the ecb trying to ruin the English game more.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/county-cricket-2015/content/story/823343.html

budget restrictions on salaries of squad in an attempt to discourage overseas signings and use lesser quality domestic players instead.


Means the quality of the county game will become worse imo, and the gap between it and international wider. Making step up for new players very very difficult.


Good job ecb. Good job........
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Re: English T20
« Reply #37 on: January 24, 2015, 11:56:48 AM »

Nice to see the ecb trying to ruin the English game more.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/county-cricket-2015/content/story/823343.html

budget restrictions on salaries of squad in an attempt to discourage overseas signings and use lesser quality domestic players instead.


Means the quality of the county game will become worse imo, and the gap between it and international wider. Making step up for new players very very difficult.


Good job ecb. Good job........


With you on this. Utterly stupid. In theory it sounds good but we'll just see more average joe Mickey Mouse cricketers. Who won't ever play for England and are just there making up numbers. Really bad news for the game. Decrease the numbers needed at the top and then increase the English proportion..

Nah, ecb are useless as always
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Re: English T20
« Reply #38 on: January 24, 2015, 12:06:53 PM »

Really is a backward step.
Instead of giving more money to counties to sign overseas players that will encourage crowds to come to games. They've decided we don't need international players. We are the EcB, we do it our way...the old boys club strikes again.
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Re: English T20
« Reply #39 on: January 24, 2015, 12:23:48 PM »

Really is a backward step.
Instead of giving more money to counties to sign overseas players that will encourage crowds to come to games. They've decided we don't need international players. We are the EcB, we do it our way...the old boys club strikes again.

Don't get me wrong, ideally you wouldn't pay silly money for a name BUT.. Names is what brings people out to watch.. Most I speak to from chelt who went to the chelt festival to watch glos vs Surrey.. Support neither team, they wanted to see... KP

Names sell. Add to that, Mickey mouse county cricketer won't be more 'talented' 99% of the time and will not catch those not already die hards interest.
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Re: English T20
« Reply #40 on: January 24, 2015, 01:18:04 PM »

People who say that county cricket is 'Mickey Mouse' are philistines.
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Re: English T20
« Reply #41 on: January 24, 2015, 01:20:59 PM »

People who say that county cricket is 'Mickey Mouse' are philistines.

Some of the guys who are in squads of the crap teams..barely play and are mainly there just as squad players are Mickey mouse. Seriously should be paid pros. Only the best should be paid pros playing county cricket, not some of the drivel around currently. Parental 2nd teamers etc are classic examples
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Re: English T20
« Reply #42 on: January 24, 2015, 01:24:55 PM »

What are peoples views on having two overseas per county team ?
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Re: English T20
« Reply #43 on: January 24, 2015, 01:31:56 PM »

What are peoples views on having two overseas per county team ?


T20 certainly.
OD no objection
Lvcc a little more cautious but we want the bAr raising so maybe in the short term it'd at least potentially raise the level. Trouble is, what 'stars' actually come to play Lvcc now. Not sure I count past its (barring legends like sanga, smith, ponting) as raising the bar.


Oh, a quice look found this Mickey mouse player who was contracted to Kent in 2014.  http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Blake_(cricketer)

Probably not paid 100k a year but still.. Money still being wasted

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Re: English T20
« Reply #44 on: January 24, 2015, 01:35:06 PM »

In my experience, crowds at T20 are far from knowledgeable about cricket. They are made up mostly of drunken office workers who want to see the ball hit a long way as often as possible.
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