Topic: The match fixer's back... (Read 6959 times)

Sam · « **Reply #15 on:** January 23, 2015, 10:19:59 PM »

Quote from: Gerry SA on January 23, 2015, 10:12:13 PM

I'd like to see a murderer get rehabilitation into society...

Anyway Amir doesn't deserve to return. Once a cheat always a cheat

Although I don't necessarily agree with either of your points here, if you likened cricket to society is match fixing seriously an equivalent of murder...?

kenbriooo · « **Reply #16 on:** January 23, 2015, 10:22:21 PM »

Just playing devils advocate... Perhaps he is not as well educated as others from more developed nations and perhaps he has witnessed much greater poverty than most can imagine either growing up or that family members are currently living in.

If these factors are true then you can see how an impressionable young lad being told by his well esteemed captain that he could earn relatively a lot of money for just a couple of 'minor' things you can see how he could become embroiled in it all.

What he did was undoubtedly wrong, but will there be a a more scrutinised player in world cricket?

Gerry SA · « **Reply #17 on:** January 23, 2015, 10:23:00 PM »

Quote from: Sam on January 23, 2015, 10:19:59 PM

Although I don't necessarily agree with either of your points here, if you likened cricket to society is match fixing seriously an equivalent of murder...?

Conning people out of money isn't the same as murder, but it still ruins lives.

jwebber86 · « **Reply #18 on:** January 23, 2015, 10:32:59 PM »

im glad they are allowing him back. what he did was wrong he pleaded guilty and served his punishment and did everything that was asked of him. everyone makes mistakes however if he does anything again he should be banned for life.

i think amir is different to the other two in that he pleaded guilty and admitted he made a mistake

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #19 on:** January 23, 2015, 10:49:58 PM »

Quote from: iand123 on January 23, 2015, 10:04:44 PM

Not sure if they are looking at historical cases though buzz, just stuff that was active.

Given he has a criminal record in the UK would he not be denied a visa to enter the country?

I hope it's true and the authorities don't allow him off it just because he plays sport. Would be interested to know if this is true or not.

qasim_aziz99 · « **Reply #20 on:** January 23, 2015, 10:54:36 PM »

Quote from: jwebber86 on January 23, 2015, 10:32:59 PM

I think amir is different to the other two in that he pleaded guilty and admitted he made a mistake

Thats why people have sympathy for him because he accepted what he did.

On another note if you look at Dwain Chambers got banned for doping but once his ban was finished he was allowed to race again even represented us at the Olympic's.

You gotta give him another chance

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #21 on:** January 23, 2015, 11:01:10 PM »

Quote from: qasim_aziz99 on January 23, 2015, 10:54:36 PM

Thats why people have sympathy for him because he accepted what he did.

On another note if you look at Dwain Chambers got banned for doping but once his ban was finished he was allowed to race again even represented us at the Olympic's.

You gotta give him another chance

Easy to admit when you are caught and up crap stream without a paddle..

As for the running druggie, he shouldn't have represented GB. Whats the deterrent then? If you know that IF you get caught (and I bet the Icc catch few ), you may get a record (means nothing as you'll be minted anyway and allowed to tour still).. Miss a few years sport (hardly bad, you're minted).. Then welcomed back into the well paid sport to ocntinue... Sounds like a win win tbh. Or at the least, worth the risk.. Exactly what it shouldnt be.. You want to basically scare the life out of players/coaches so they won't risk it.

Sam · « **Reply #22 on:** January 23, 2015, 11:04:53 PM »

To be honest although slightly off topic, although it does come into it, when you say minted I doubt Pakistani internationals earn anywhere near the likes of English and Australian players, then you consider the fact that they're not allowed to play in the IPL either.

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #23 on:** January 23, 2015, 11:05:35 PM »

Quote from: Sam on January 23, 2015, 11:04:53 PM

To be honest although slightly off topic, although it does come into it, when you say minted I doubt Pakistani internationals earn anywhere near the likes of English and Australian players, then you consider the fact that they're not allowed to play in the IPL either.

Having spent time out there, they'll love like kings.. Don't worry about that

Sam · « **Reply #24 on:** January 23, 2015, 11:08:05 PM »

Just on an informative basis here, the daily mail estimated their central contracts to be worth just over 5% of that of England and Australian players. I've got to admit I don't have much more knowledge other than what I've researched such as that so I can't debate much more in that area (Although I still find it fairly irrelevant).

Gerry SA · « **Reply #25 on:** January 23, 2015, 11:09:25 PM »

Quote from: Sam on January 23, 2015, 11:08:05 PM

Just on an informative basis here, the daily mail estimated their central contracts to be worth just over 5% of that of England and Australian players. I've got to admit I don't have much more knowledge other than what I've researched such as that so I can't debate much more in that area (Although I still find it fairly irrelevant).

Factor in a lower cost of living in Pakistan

Sam · « **Reply #26 on:** January 23, 2015, 11:11:31 PM »

Yep, not really an expert in that area so can't comment any more on it really. I still feel rehabilitation of some kind is the best and most suitable route to go though in my opinion.

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #27 on:** January 23, 2015, 11:11:59 PM »

Quote from: Sam on January 23, 2015, 11:08:05 PM

Just on an informative basis here, the daily mail estimated their central contracts to be worth just over 5% of that of England and Australian players. I've got to admit I don't have much more knowledge other than what I've researched such as that so I can't debate much more in that area (Although I still find it fairly irrelevant).

Maybe we over pay?!?!?

Their living costs are completely different, so you can't really compare.

ppccopener · « **Reply #28 on:** January 23, 2015, 11:33:26 PM »

Just for my two penny's worth asif and butt relentlessly denied the allegations for appeal after appeal.only when they all failed did they admit they did it...does that matter? I think it does...coming from a poor background is not justification for taking money for cheating...it's background to maybe understanding why he did what he did.
I wonder how many of this forum would want a life ban for mervyn westfield?
Was he naive? Yes.was it against all the morals of sport? Yes absolutley was he played like a fiddle by kaneria? I'm sure he was
To my knowledge Westfield did not get the 6 grand paid to him,he agreed to bowl the wides or whatever it was but didn't actually bank the cash.
Is that a life ban or just a stupid decision that should have the right punishment...
The lawmakers make the law,we can all have an opinion of course....but sentencing but public opinion is a very dodgy area

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #29 on:** January 23, 2015, 11:35:11 PM »

We know our justice system stinks tbh

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