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Re: The Showers
« Reply #30 on: February 05, 2015, 10:27:56 AM »

Just had a quick look on the ECB website and your not even meant to text/email anyone under 18 unless you copy in their parents!
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Re: The Showers
« Reply #31 on: February 05, 2015, 01:53:12 PM »

To be honest, as a 'youngster', I find the showers to be a jarring experience, to the extent that I don't shower at the club.

I just don't get it, at all. It seems infantile and very odd; the fact that as a 13-14 year old playing adult cricket that there were 50-60 year olds wandering around naked doesn't seem especially appropriate to be honest.

Maybe I just don't appreciate banter. ;)

Good post. I don't blame youngsters for not showering.
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« Reply #32 on: February 05, 2015, 01:58:53 PM »

Good post. I don't blame youngsters for not showering.

Never understood why you wouldn't shower, even as a youngster. You get all hot and sweaty playing cricket ,so it makes sense to have a shower at the ground as soon as possible. Saves on the water bill at home and a well timed shower is great for cover duty avoidance after the game  ;)
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Re: The Showers
« Reply #33 on: February 05, 2015, 03:00:12 PM »

No, I can completely understand it.  I didn't like it at my old club where I was one of the more shy quiet youngsters in an older team.  Seemed fairly intimidatory to a young quiet kid, and when a point is made that you don't shower, makes you avoid it more, not less.

Then I moved club and prefer the people there, I didn't move there until 18 and it was just part of the routine now.  Arguably at times more of a laugh than the cricket if you've had a particularly naff day!
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Re: The Showers
« Reply #34 on: February 05, 2015, 03:01:28 PM »

Never understood why you wouldn't shower, even as a youngster. You get all hot and sweaty playing cricket ,so it makes sense to have a shower at the

 ground as soon as possible. Saves on the water bill at home and a well timed shower is great for cover duty avoidance after the game  ;)

That has generally been what I've been saying, but I felt the youngster made a valid point.
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Re: The Showers
« Reply #35 on: February 05, 2015, 05:44:44 PM »

I'm also a youngster at 16 but I've been playing in mens teams for around 4 years or so. I guess you just get used to it in the dressing rooms, at first it was very awkward but you get used to it pretty quickly. There's a group of us all about 15, 16 and 17 who have all grown up playing together we now all shower together in a separate set of showers then most of the older lads on the team where we chat about birds or just take mick out of each other its just a different kind of banter to what the older lads take part in. Anyway moral of the story is its just something you get used to its part of the culture of the game and it changes as you get older.
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Re: The Showers
« Reply #36 on: February 13, 2015, 10:27:15 AM »

Please Please Please could you all check the ECB guidance on young people changing rooms mobile phones ect. If I was part of any county development team reading this thread i would be having absolute kittens. And bear in mind that anyone reading this with a knowledge of what club you play for has an obligation under safeguarding provisions to inform ECB of any malpractice. Sorry if this sounds harsh but I am the CWO at our club and understand how seriously this is taken.

http://www.ecb.co.uk/ecb/safeguarding-and-protecting-children/

All ECB affiliated cricket clubs must have
a Changing Policy. This will depend upon
facilities available, access to those facilities
and the number of children involved. The
following provides a framework of best
practice and guidance for a Changing Policy
to be developed within the club. These
guidelines apply to adults, and children,
sharing changing facilities. Clubs should
identify, and develop, the framework that
best suits their changing arrangements,
taking into account the number of children
involved.
Best practice principles to be adopted by
clubs, wherever possible, are as follows:
• Adults must not change, or shower, at
the same time using the same facility as
children
• Adults should try to change at separate
times to children during matches, for
example when children are padding up
• If adults and children need to share a
changing facility, the club must have
consent from parents that their child(ren)
can share a changing room with adults in
the club
• If children play for Open Age teams, they,
and their parents, must be informed of the
club’s policy on changing arrangements
• Mixed gender teams must have access
to separate male and female changing
rooms
• Mobile phones must not be used in
changing rooms
If children are uncomfortable changing or
showering at the club, no pressure should be
placed on them to do so. Suggest instead
that they may change and shower at home.
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Re: The Showers
« Reply #37 on: February 13, 2015, 11:04:07 AM »

Please Please Please could you all check the ECB guidance on young people changing rooms mobile phones ect. If I was part of any county development team reading this thread i would be having absolute kittens. And bear in mind that anyone reading this with a knowledge of what club you play for has an obligation under safeguarding provisions to inform ECB of any malpractice. Sorry if this sounds harsh but I am the CWO at our club and understand how seriously this is taken.

http://www.ecb.co.uk/ecb/safeguarding-and-protecting-children/

All ECB affiliated cricket clubs must have
a Changing Policy. This will depend upon
facilities available, access to those facilities
and the number of children involved. The
following provides a framework of best
practice and guidance for a Changing Policy
to be developed within the club. These
guidelines apply to adults, and children,
sharing changing facilities. Clubs should
identify, and develop, the framework that
best suits their changing arrangements,
taking into account the number of children
involved.
Best practice principles to be adopted by
clubs, wherever possible, are as follows:
• Adults must not change, or shower, at
the same time using the same facility as
children
• Adults should try to change at separate
times to children during matches, for
example when children are padding up
• If adults and children need to share a
changing facility, the club must have
consent from parents that their child(ren)
can share a changing room with adults in
the club
• If children play for Open Age teams, they,
and their parents, must be informed of the
club’s policy on changing arrangements
• Mixed gender teams must have access
to separate male and female changing
rooms
• Mobile phones must not be used in
changing rooms
If children are uncomfortable changing or
showering at the club, no pressure should be
placed on them to do so. Suggest instead
that they may change and shower at home.


Given how few weirdos there are around it's no wonder amateur sport is dying given such ruling. Might as well call everyone a peido tbh. Talk about getting things blown out of proportion. Hand in your phones, don't change x or y, ask permission.. Jesus. Sack kids teams off if it weren't for the sheer volume of cash they generate
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Re: The Showers
« Reply #38 on: February 13, 2015, 11:28:28 AM »

I know. And the cost of the courses we have to go on is shocking when you add it up. However in these litigious days you have to cover your back. In the last  10 years there have been at least 3 middlesex junior coaches who have been prosecuted for abuse. One of whom took his own life. I know this is just meant to be a humorous exchange but you cant be too careful. We insist on all the provisions above. at first it seems an imposition but once you get used to it, it works Ok.
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Re: The Showers
« Reply #39 on: February 13, 2015, 11:35:09 AM »

There's a lot of leeway and common sense if you read it carefully. "Mobile phones should not be used" doesn't mean you have to hand them in. Just leave them in your bag. All the parental permissions can be in there signing on document when they join the club, done once and its sorted. Same document can include something like "please read all the policies on our web site and sign here that you have"
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Re: The Showers
« Reply #40 on: February 13, 2015, 11:44:11 AM »

By not using your phone, you can imagine you're a pro who isn't allowed to by betting regulations!
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Re: The Showers
« Reply #41 on: February 13, 2015, 12:32:41 PM »

By not using your phone, you can imagine you're a pro who isn't allowed to by betting regulations!

But the tin shed changing rooms and horses grazing on the square shatter the illusion
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Re: The Showers
« Reply #42 on: February 13, 2015, 01:33:17 PM »

But the tin shed changing rooms and horses grazing on the square shatter the illusion

and getting out for 2 by some older bowler bowling 45mph just line and length and getting bored
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Re: The Showers
« Reply #43 on: February 13, 2015, 01:43:38 PM »

i remember when the seniors in my team used to hit me on the head with their (No Swearing Please)'

i made sure I got some runs after being subject to the "helicopter"!
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Re: The Showers
« Reply #44 on: February 13, 2015, 01:52:00 PM »

By not using your phone, you can imagine you're a pro who isn't allowed to by betting regulations!

Only applies to international cricket... common misconception. County Pros can spend all day on the phone if they wish.
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