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Re: WORLD CUP 2015
« Reply #780 on: March 04, 2015, 09:28:53 AM »

Fascinating that Maxwell is equally happy to reverse sweep off of off stump or clip over square leg.

Now I'm watching Michael Clarke on a toothpaste advertisement between overs.... ;)
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« Reply #781 on: March 04, 2015, 09:36:12 AM »

Now I'm watching Michael Clarke on a toothpaste advertisement between overs.... ;)

The things we miss out on living in the UK... ;)

Loving seeing so many teams play without the fear and conservatism that is embedded in the English game...
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« Reply #782 on: March 04, 2015, 11:10:25 AM »

Just the fact that no one has even replied to this thread with a team scoring over 400 shows how boring ODI's have become. There is just no point what so ever even being a bowler in ODI's anymore. You might as well just put a bowling machine at one end.

Its going to get to the point where the team batting first only has 40 overs and the team batting 2nd has 50 overs.
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Re: WORLD CUP 2015
« Reply #783 on: March 04, 2015, 11:19:22 AM »

Warner threw away a chance for an easy double having done all the hard work, and Big Show did his usual jug avoidance routine!

Only question now is how big will the margin of victory be
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« Reply #784 on: March 04, 2015, 11:29:55 AM »

Still no odi ton for maxwell.

There'll start flowing after he becomes a yorkie. 

This is what england should have done to Scotland.  The fact we scraped 300 dhows how poor we are at the attacking stuff.


And I'd have replied if I wasn't working kieron.  Lol
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« Reply #785 on: March 04, 2015, 11:32:23 AM »

Got Warner in my team as my power player. Hope he makes 300!

Me too and Maxwell :D
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Re: WORLD CUP 2015
« Reply #786 on: March 04, 2015, 12:18:26 PM »

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/66723228/black-caps-crunching-data-like-gcsb-for-world-cup-effort

Quick read about how NZ prepare for games (and WC in general).

Laptop study done right?
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Re: WORLD CUP 2015
« Reply #787 on: March 04, 2015, 12:25:18 PM »

http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine/content/story/841885.html

ive read quite a few different suggestions for how to revamp the world cup.

quite like the idea from martin crowe.

there was a better version i read the other week but cant remember who from
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« Reply #788 on: March 04, 2015, 04:02:15 PM »

Sounds a bit lengthy and involved to me.

The problem is that people don't want to watch Kenya vs Netherlands etc. Everyone wants to see small teams do well against big teams, but with the 9 and 9 format people will lose interest very quickly with so many games.

I'd be in favour of a football world cup style.

4 groups of 4. Top 2 go through, and you will probably end up with the best 8 teams going through.
But each match is higher quality, less games such as Bangladesh vs Scotland, but you still give the opportunity to the associate nations to play.
This will hopefully improve them, and eventually you have people like Zim and Bangladesh being knocked out by Ireland/Afghanistan.

Keep it to 50 overs, but penalise during games for slow over rates, cut out drinks breaks etc. to speed it up.
Something needs to be done to the middle overs too, as these tend to slow down a fair bit. Perhaps a substitute batter? e.g. england are pootling along with Bell and Root in the 20-30 over area. Sub in Buttler for 5 overs (like a powerplay) for one of those, and then he subs back out if still in.
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Re: WORLD CUP 2015
« Reply #789 on: March 04, 2015, 04:06:58 PM »

i think the format i read whch i really like had 3 groups of 6. the top 2 teams automatically qualify for the quarters with the best 3rd place team and then there was a playoff between the 2nd and 3rd best 3rd place teams for the last quarter final spot.

it also suggested that the 8 teams that make it to the quarters automatically qualify for the next world cup regardless of ODI ranking which means they games have to riding on them so makes the later stage groups games still important to do well in
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Re: WORLD CUP 2015
« Reply #790 on: March 04, 2015, 04:15:08 PM »

Just the fact that no one has even replied to this thread with a team scoring over 400 shows how boring ODI's have become. There is just no point what so ever even being a bowler in ODI's anymore. You might as well just put a bowling machine at one end.

To be fair, you have a very particular set of circumstances with some big disparities in strength whilst games are played on smaller than usual grounds in high season peak batting conditions.  The game is definitely changing, but not by as much as South Africa vs Ireland and Australia vs Afghanistan might at first suggest. 
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« Reply #791 on: March 04, 2015, 04:32:37 PM »

I've read quite a few people say how unfair the game is for bowlers etc. etc.

But really Australia vs Afghanistan can't be used as a fair measure can it??
If there is a game that should see someone score 400+ it's that.
If the likes of Aus, SA and India were scoring 400 against each other there would be a case for questions.
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Re: WORLD CUP 2015
« Reply #792 on: March 04, 2015, 05:07:49 PM »

I think 4 groups of 4 is a good format.  The largest competition has to provide the opportunity for more countries to play the game.  It's no coincidence that players, ex players, etc. are asking for more teams to spread the game globally.
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Re: WORLD CUP 2015
« Reply #793 on: March 04, 2015, 05:12:25 PM »

Associates need to play the world cup as there is a lot of funding and motivation that comes with that from ICC as well as national government grants are tied to playing in the elite comp for the teams which in turn helps them develop and play more competitive teams because they can afford to travel or host, I know what the price is to host teams like India, WI, Pak etc and that doesn't come cheap I would have thought if they were that interested in growing cricket there would have been a lot more goodwill tours of smaller nations with A team or development squads. Having said that its not the world cup match time that will make these teams better but more time playing against better teams in non WC years, you want to see a real improvement give these teams a packed calendar of all forms of cricket against bigger nations (even A teams) for four years and then see how they do in WC. Performance of associates has been good and it highlights they need more competitive cricket to get better.
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Re: WORLD CUP 2015
« Reply #794 on: March 04, 2015, 06:11:29 PM »

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/66723228/black-caps-crunching-data-like-gcsb-for-world-cup-effort

Quick read about how NZ prepare for games (and WC in general).

Laptop study done right?


Nothing earth shattering about it. I imagine most of the teams do similar. Though Moores has been know to pick players based on their averages, I think Pattinson was the poor guy who got picked out of a spreadsheet.
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