Topic: Different grades / different Densities / different clefts (Read 15613 times)

The Doctor · « **Reply #45 on:** February 13, 2015, 10:56:06 AM »

Quote from: amritpremi on February 13, 2015, 07:46:12 AM

I didn't want to bring the noise into picture, I was rather interested in highlighting bat vibrations. If yhe bat vibrated well (not the handle vibrations) but the sweet spot vibration. I feel how well & effortlessly a bat vibrates defines how well a bat plays. But I know how amatuer I am in talking clefts and its properties.

This is another area altogether and again something that we are investing heavily into, but quite separate to this topic of grading willow on performance as opposed to aesthetics.

The sweet spot by definition is the point of no vibration and not an area. The position of this point is dictated by the bat design rather than the properties of the material used. There are also a couple of other things that we are looking at which can narrow the playing area but increase the COR - for the professional player or widen the playing area but with lessen the COR (ideal for me....)

Streaky

Buzz · « **Reply #46 on:** February 13, 2015, 11:32:37 AM »

Quote from: The Doctor on February 13, 2015, 10:56:06 AM

The sweet spot by definition is the point of no vibration and not an area. The position of this point is dictated by the bat design rather than the properties of the material used. There are also a couple of other things that we are looking at which can narrow the playing area but increase the COR - for the professional player or widen the playing area but with lessen the COR (ideal for me....)

oooh now this becomes really interesting... and possibly a little bit mind bending!

SLC · « **Reply #47 on:** February 13, 2015, 11:38:12 AM »

This is really interesting. In golf this is well established - hackers want very forgiving clubs, pros clubs are much harder to use, but hit further with perfect connections.

I think I time the ball quite poorly for the amount of runs I score, so I'm always tempted by a GN scoop type bat as, at least in my head, they should be more forgiving.

SLC · « **Reply #48 on:** February 13, 2015, 11:42:11 AM »

And on this point, I don't really like my current bat, an mh solution (really low middle), because it seems to have a very small, but very powerful hitting area.

I seem to be hitting fewer 6s than before, but far more absolutely huge 6s. Its seems very all or nothing. Either that or its just in my head.

tim2000s · « **Reply #49 on:** February 13, 2015, 01:04:25 PM »

Quote from: Buzz on February 13, 2015, 11:32:37 AM

oooh now this becomes really interesting... and possibly a little bit mind bending!

Agree - really interesting!

brokenbat · « **Reply #50 on:** February 13, 2015, 01:26:20 PM »

Quote from: The Doctor on February 13, 2015, 10:56:06 AM

This is another area altogether and again something that we are investing heavily into, but quite separate to this topic of grading willow on performance as opposed to aesthetics.

The sweet spot by definition is the point of no vibration and not an area. The position of this point is dictated by the bat design rather than the properties of the material used. There are also a couple of other things that we are looking at which can narrow the playing area but increase the COR - for the professional player or widen the playing area but with lessen the COR (ideal for me....)

Streaky

exactly the difference between golf clubs for pros, and those for normal people

procricket · « **Reply #51 on:** February 14, 2015, 10:17:31 AM »

Lets not forget the forum special this 350 cleft could make all the below bats 5oz lighter.

If you want a superlight massive bat get in touch i guarantee like the pro bats once this get released on Twitter it will not last long at all

Grade 3 / 1 stripe

A 1 stripe will have a minimum of 4 grains � if it has 4 or 5 grains I would expect the face to be relatively blemish free. On the other hand we do get 1 stripes with more grains with blemishes on the face.

Grade 2 / 2 Stripe

A 2 Stripe will have a minimum of 5 grains, and again if it has 5 or 6 grains I would expect the face to be blemish free, you can get a higher number of grains but these will contain a few blemishes.

Grade 1

A 3 Stripe will have a minimum of 7 grains with no blemish / pin knots in the playing area. You can get anything up to 30 grains, but these are becoming increasingly rare.

The beautiful thing about what we offer is that you can select what type of willow you prefer � if you are lucky enough to be able to make it to the factory you can go through all our willow stocks to find the one that is right for you. If you can�t make it in, just let me know what you like and I will take a picture of a selection of clefts that you can choose from.
And finally � found this beauty when grading the last lot of willow we had in��

Forum Special

�350 if anyone wants it��..

Chalkie · « **Reply #52 on:** February 14, 2015, 10:05:46 PM »

So sounds like most people agree the quality of the grains and the pressing can make a difference on bat performance.

As an amateur interested in learning more about this i have a couple of questions:

1) can a badly (or generically) pressed bat be improved by diligent knocking in, or does a bad pressing mean the bat will never reach full potential.

2) can a lesser grade bat ever meet the performance of a top grade bat given time and care?

Thanks,

The Doctor · « **Reply #53 on:** February 18, 2015, 07:18:17 PM »

Quote from: Chalkie on February 14, 2015, 10:05:46 PM

So sounds like most people agree the quality of the grains and the pressing can make a difference on bat performance.

As an amateur interested in learning more about this i have a couple of questions:

1) can a badly (or generically) pressed bat be improved by diligent knocking in, or does a bad pressing mean the bat will never reach full potential.
Depends on the initial pressing, pressed too soft, then yes the bat will get better with play/knocking in. Pressed too hard and the bat wont improve

2) can a lesser grade bat ever meet the performance of a top grade bat given time and care?
No - a typical lesser grade will never perform as well as a typical higher grade bat. I use the word typical, as there are exceptions to the rule that this thread as hit upon. Those exceptions will play as good as a higher grade

A good press should make;

Bad clefts good
Good clefts Great
Great clefts AWESOME

Thanks,

The Doctor · « **Reply #54 on:** February 18, 2015, 07:20:43 PM »

Quote from: procricket B3 on February 14, 2015, 10:17:31 AM

Lets not forget the forum special this 350 cleft could make all the below bats 5oz lighter.

If you want a superlight massive bat get in touch i guarantee like the pro bats once this get released on Twitter it will not last long at all

Forum Special

�350 if anyone wants it��..

Forum Special SOLD to a lucky lad in London, it will make a beast of a 2lb8oz Professional shape 19........

All the other clefts in this thread I have also put to one side, so if you fancy any of them, just give me shout - david@b3cricket.com

Streaky

abdulwq · « **Reply #55 on:** February 22, 2015, 07:23:48 PM »

how much for grade 2/2stripe?

procricket · « **Reply #56 on:** February 22, 2015, 07:34:43 PM »

Hi pal

http://www.b3cricket.com/prices

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