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Re: New Tonto Design/Map design CLeft Selection pictures added
« Reply #60 on: March 31, 2015, 12:05:56 PM »


Bloody really happy with the bats.





Wow, Is that Crown grade willow?
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« Reply #61 on: March 31, 2015, 12:37:15 PM »

It a strange one it not graded really I guess density wise it as light as it gets at mid 350 both .

I use the uglylier one it first one I used and going well really well
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« Reply #62 on: March 31, 2015, 12:45:16 PM »

Love the grains on that; but most probably beyond my means anyway  :-[. Just wanted to know how many stripes would have gone on that.
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« Reply #63 on: March 31, 2015, 10:12:21 PM »

Hello mate hard one to say I guess it could be anything from a three stripe to a crown.

We wouldn't ordinary sell a three quarter heartwood bat unless somebody really wanted one as it could be brittler than sapwood and may not last as long.

It is ultra low density this one with not a blemish a all 31 grains

It not the looks but the size of the bat for the weight and wood in it as others who have seen it it big and possibly the best balanced bat I have used and seen and if anybody wants to see one get yourself down to dotball on a Monday or Wednesday im there see for yourself
« Last Edit: March 31, 2015, 10:16:58 PM by procricket B3 »
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« Reply #64 on: June 02, 2015, 12:09:29 PM »

Dave, what weight would this be for a 400 density cleft? Seems to be a couple of conflicting posts on here that say either 2.10.5 or 2.12?
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« Reply #65 on: June 02, 2015, 12:12:38 PM »

My 392 density long handled butterfly tonto was 2.103 from memory. So you're looking at under 2.11, not 2.12 as stated in the butterfly thread. Thats my guess
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« Reply #66 on: June 02, 2015, 04:47:20 PM »

400 will be 2-12 mate as my two are both 2-7 and a half from 355 and 352 respectively however I had extra binding on mine two just a touch so a 400 would indeed be just under 2-12.
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« Reply #67 on: June 02, 2015, 04:57:59 PM »

@procricket B3 (Dave), I am very impressed with that profile. I think it would suit me perfectly. However, if it were to be made as a T20 bat (1 inch shorter blade), to get more wood in the playing area, how would the shape change?
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« Reply #68 on: June 02, 2015, 05:09:18 PM »

Well the toe is thin so if you did what Sarg did I his thread would do that to it his thread is on here.

I would do what he did for t20 or make it narrower and make it a bit thicker
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« Reply #69 on: June 02, 2015, 05:12:15 PM »

My recently acquired Tonto


It's a belter!

Weight - 2.6.8 with a ripple
Edge - 38mm
Spine - 65mm

Zero concaving. Have to admit it's a gorgeous shape,  just hope I get chance to use it this season!
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« Reply #70 on: June 02, 2015, 09:30:32 PM »

Well the toe is thin so if you did what Sarg did I his thread would do that to it his thread is on here.

I would do what he did for t20 or make it narrower and make it a bit thicker


This is the post Dave is referring to:

http://www.custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=34500.msg547619#msg547619

also discussed in the Master thread:
http://www.custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=34404.msg547977#msg547977

It could have been the dumbest move ever,  but it still feels amazingly light in its pickup. Its 2.10 dead now, but still feels way lighter. I ordered the long handle as a oval and it is nice in the hands even though i hold the bat higher on the handle.

I might end up using it as my match bat.
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Re: New Tonto Design/Map design CLeft Selection pictures added
« Reply #71 on: June 02, 2015, 09:42:39 PM »

I added a couple of mm to the toe on my version of Dave's tonto, with a harrow length/full width profile. I suspect you could get it to 30mm if you needed it.
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« Reply #72 on: June 02, 2015, 10:01:40 PM »

I was thinking about my comparison shots in my links above with the SS Master and B3 edge sizes. The pressing on the two is the difference. I'll be knocking in the SS for hours with my LV and i doubt it will ever perform like the B3. The Tonto was knocked in less than an hour!

I'm sure if the Tonto was pressed like the SS it have edges 1 -2 mm bigger ever though it has a 4.5 mm camber compared to the SS 1 or 2 mm camber. Edge size is not what a B3 bat is about.
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« Reply #73 on: June 02, 2015, 10:32:13 PM »

We can cater for anything we have normal clefts that push 40-41mm edge size pressed and we can on a oversized get up to 50mm edge size plus. I just love the design of the Tonto and the way it has been manipulated so it suit different people and there needs it what a design should do and at 37.5mm edges not a small bat at all and in my super low density it a very big bat at 2-7 and a half only one bigger I have seen that's easbo who got a lucky mistake and a 349 cleft
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« Reply #74 on: June 02, 2015, 11:12:41 PM »

Very Happy with both my bats Dave. Don't care about edge sizes over 40 mm but that's good to know we can go big.

I knock in a few bigger bats for people and they don't feel my cup of tea. The Tonto profile is all i want. Big in the middle and powerful, yet so balanced and nimble enough that i can flick and glide if i need to. Love my butterfly stains too as there is one at the top, one at the toe and a recessed stain right in the sweetspot, with some marbling and a bit of a branch on one edge. Feels hard and pingy.

I'm trying my best to hit my big shots out of the middle most of the time even though the scuff sheet on the db2 might debunk that statement as i'm relearning how to move my feet with some offseason coaching.

Only time i like the look of a a 40 + mm edge is when my outswing is working! [emoji2]
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