Topic: Price of a crown bat (Read 11399 times)

potzy248 · « **on:** February 15, 2015, 07:41:30 AM »

I was wondering why the crown bats have increased �100 in less than a year? No disrespect intended but to me the same process and craftsmanship that has always been a hallmark of B3 would not have changed much. I'm assuming same machine is being used as is the finishing by human hands.

Most of the other forum sponsors offer amazing deals (Hunts �165 custom G1 for example) where as B3 seem to keep getting more expensive.

I am a very big fan and hope you guys don't head down the GN/GM road where the top bats are over �550.

The Palmist · « **Reply #1 on:** February 15, 2015, 08:14:56 AM »

Controversial much....and really do they or any business owe an explanation? Price is dictated by market and I got a feeling this thread will be locked very soon.

That said B3 are not forcing anyone to buy their expensive clefts just offering.

amritpremi · « **Reply #2 on:** February 15, 2015, 08:17:06 AM »

I think one of the major contributors would be rarity of beautiful looking low density willow. IMHO I would never buy a bat that expensive in my current salary grade and playing standard but there'll always be buyers for top 0.5-1% willow.

potzy248 · « **Reply #3 on:** February 15, 2015, 08:31:45 AM »

If people are willing to pay that price then why not sell them for that.

I don't truly expect an explanation just I don't expect my bank to tell my why my fees keep going up even though their profits could sustain life on earth for the next 10 years.

I suppose I asked as I really don't think anyone can justify a �100 increase over a few months.

Saying that they are becoming more and more popular, which must mean they are doing a lot of things right.

Can't wait for my 2nd hand B3 to arrive.

amritpremi · « **Reply #4 on:** February 15, 2015, 09:27:15 AM »

I completely agree with you, thats a huge hike in price in a short duration. I am still waiting to try a B3 in my slightly limited budget.

Seniorplayer · « **Reply #5 on:** February 15, 2015, 09:55:38 AM »

Read an article stating it's because the best clefts are getting rarer and more expensive also what clefts any batmaker recieve are governed by ratios.

procricket · « **Reply #6 on:** February 15, 2015, 10:02:13 AM »

A very good question.

Well lets look at from this point of view.

Research costs have gone up, we have had to take on extra staff because we are busy, cost of willow has gone up all contributing.

As for what the forum offers we do 98 per cent of our business away from the forum we try to keep prices down across the range for instance our butterfly was and and i suspect will be the cheapest again when they role out again.

Our 1 stripe is one of the cheapest on the market too so we look to cater for everybody so is our best seller the 3 stripe bespoke.

Whilst i agree it is expensive i can guarantee you one thing the crown is the best willow we can supply even better than our sponsored players bats.

I hope this answers everything for you we have prices to suit all pockets people who are owners at B3 are not rich people and making millions mate trust me on this there working class people.

There are some good offers out there some not so i can't comment on others i rate the crown bats but then again i rate 1 stripes too.

If it helps you i can tell you one of the directors yesterday bought himself a new car it was not something flash it was a mid range family car around 8 years old people and this is a person who is a world leader in his field.

People aslo on the forum do get access at times to lower density lower grade that you wouldn't normally see but hey i try my best

procricket · « **Reply #7 on:** February 15, 2015, 10:12:49 AM »

And as for forum offer we have one currently a 350 density very cheap we also will be doing butterfly and i will be doing a live day there very soon with some trial and demo bats.

I have two bats which will be up very soon all sub 100 quid which had defects on the machine so we have and will keep running these offers i hope people like what we are doing and keep doing.

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #8 on:** February 15, 2015, 10:16:53 AM »

As Dave points out

Bills are going up (elec, gas, banks, tax, rates etc etc)
Cleft prices have gone up (not by loads but a few quid each)
Machinery costs
maintenance costs
I'd imagine labour costs have gone up in a small company as they can't afford to not to and retain decent staff (fine if you are a mcdonalds type but if you actually want competence you have to pay more than peanuts)
Because companies can - simple really, they'll keep raising the prices until people stop buying.. why not!!
Because directors want to earn more and more and have to finance their trips, cars, houses etc
Because they can..
Ummm, because it seems business now is about making max profit rather than just earning a living. Just look at the ECB, selling out for the buck and employing money men over people are less qualified so to speak in business and more qualified in the love of cricket.

it's the way of the world, accept it. No point fighting it as you will lose. It's simply not possible now for someone wanting to enter any market and keep prices down, you are basically either forced to sell for more than you need to OR you might as well sell for what others do.. oh, he's selling his top bat for 350.. mines only 250.. humm, I'm 'losing' out on 100... I'll sell for 330 then.. rather than 'actually, I only want to make x%, so I'll leavea it at 250. I could make more but I don't want/need to'

still, all opinion, not aimed at B3 in anyway, meerly generalist

Percy · « **Reply #9 on:** February 15, 2015, 10:20:31 AM »

An interesting topic and one which I feel can never be truly addressed. I know the cost of willow has increased, but surely the cost of extra staff is addressed by the increase in sales which brought about their recruitment in the first place. Sure, there is a bat for every price point but that wasn't the question.

At the end of the day it's none of our business what a company charges for a bat and how the cost is arrived at. A young company starting out will often produce competitively priced goods, as they become more successful they can charge more. My gut feeling is that is what is happening here. It's just a fact of life.

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #10 on:** February 15, 2015, 10:24:16 AM »

Quote from: Percy on February 15, 2015, 10:20:31 AM

starting out will often produce competitively priced goods, as they become more successful they can charge more.

This.. GN didn't start by charging OTT prices.. they would have started realistically priced and since they 'made it' will have raised their price purely because they can. same with Kook, GM etc etc

It's simply just what brands do, start small, offer value/service etc.. then as they get big they market the same values but the value actually isn't as good as prices soar. It's not limited to any one company, it's just what happens for lots of reasons.

procricket · « **Reply #11 on:** February 15, 2015, 10:28:38 AM »

Quote from: Percy on February 15, 2015, 10:20:31 AM

An interesting topic and one which I feel can never be truly addressed. I know the cost of willow has increased, but surely the cost of extra staff is addressed by the increase in sales which brought about their recruitment in the first place. Sure, there is a bat for every price point but that wasn't the question.

At the end of the day it's none of our business what a company charges for a bat and how the cost is arrived at. A young company starting out will often produce competitively priced goods, as they become more successful they can charge more. My gut feeling is that is what is happening here. It's just a fact of life.

We do not mind mate sharing our thoughts.

Recruitment was not done due to increased custom (however it has worked out that way) but to improve the process so Streaky could refine and improve what we do.

As for not the question asked bit like politics lets not go to source and find the answer but look at the background to the question . Which is people have asked why they have gone up but nobody asked why our butterfly where the cheapest on here and our 1 stripe is still one of the cheapest.

The Doctor · « **Reply #12 on:** February 15, 2015, 10:55:13 AM »

Quote from: procricket B3 on February 15, 2015, 10:28:38 AM

We do not mind mate sharing our thoughts.

Recruitment was not done due to increased custom (however it has worked out that way) but to improve the process so Streaky could refine and improve what we do.

As for not the question asked bit like politics lets not go to source and find the answer but look at the background to the question . Which is people have asked why they have gone up but nobody asked why our butterfly where the cheapest on here and our 1 stripe is still one of the cheapest.

Nothing to hide and don't mind sharing the reasons. Got my hands full at the minute (literally) 4 month old sleeping baby and keeping a 4 and 6 year old entertained.... Makes making bats seem easy.

Will hopefully get back on tonight, this will postpone my a post that I was going to do on Pressing.

What do people want to learn about pressing or prices?

Streaky

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #13 on:** February 15, 2015, 10:56:44 AM »

Quote from: The Doctor on February 15, 2015, 10:55:13 AM

Nothing to hide and don't mind sharing the reasons. Got my hands full at the minute (literally) 4 month old sleeping baby and keeping a 4 and 6 year old entertained.... Makes making bats seem easy.

Will hopefully get back on tonight, this will postpone my a post that I was going to do on Pressing.

What do people want to learn about pressing or prices?

Streaky

Pressing of course!

The Palmist · « **Reply #14 on:** February 15, 2015, 10:57:01 AM »

Quote from: procricket B3 on February 15, 2015, 10:12:49 AM

And as for forum offer we have one currently a 350 density very cheap

your product your prices mate but 350quid is not very cheap for Joe Public.

This is no comment on quality just the perception of "very cheap" from an average punters point of view.

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