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joymarvin

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Re: Price of a crown bat
« Reply #30 on: February 15, 2015, 12:50:25 PM »

I have purchased 3 crownes since Oct 2014 and the last one arrived a week back. I dont have any issue in the price hike which could consists of several reasons which I dont want to get in detail. These crownes regardless of price are of exceptional quality and I have got big bats in lower weights and Dave is aware about it. I have paid 1100$ for a l&w signature and its no where performs to the crownes I got.
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Re: Price of a crown bat
« Reply #31 on: February 15, 2015, 12:58:04 PM »

It's like buying acferrari you pay more for it

If it's out of your price range accept that and move on.

Cricket bat prices in General are too high but so are a lit of other things ... 70p for a snickers!
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Re: Price of a crown bat
« Reply #32 on: February 15, 2015, 01:05:08 PM »

It's like buying acferrari you pay more for it

If it's out of your price range accept that and move on.

Cricket bat prices in General are too high but so are a lit of other things ... 70p for a snickers!
ooh but those  Ferraris are rare, guarantee  performance  and are super good value for money. As per snickers let's  get Osborne  on the forum.
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Re: Price of a crown bat
« Reply #33 on: February 15, 2015, 01:21:14 PM »

I have purchased 3 crownes since Oct 2014 and the last one arrived a week back. I dont have any issue in the price hike which could consists of several reasons which I dont want to get in detail. These crownes regardless of price are of exceptional quality and I have got big bats in lower weights and Dave is aware about it. I have paid 1100$ for a l&w signature and its no where performs to the crownes I got.

Get some pictures of your collection mate for us all to ogle! Second thing, do you actually use all these bats or are they hung on the wall to stare / drool at?!  :-[
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Re: Price of a crown bat
« Reply #34 on: February 15, 2015, 01:24:57 PM »

Hi Ams4287..I use them mate but b3 more..Will try and get some pics later..
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Re: Price of a crown bat
« Reply #35 on: February 15, 2015, 01:29:06 PM »

Joy has some collection he has a super ss he and his mates have access not just to mine but some very special bats from India.
His 3 crowns are all different he like me wants a 2-7 pound bat that is powerful yet picks up light.

« Last Edit: February 15, 2015, 01:30:39 PM by procricket B3 »
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Re: Price of a crown bat
« Reply #36 on: February 15, 2015, 01:30:22 PM »

Surely this is just supply and demand?

Supply of this quality of willow is lessening which in turn will put up the price. Additionally, if there was no demand at this price then B3 wouldn't make any sales and have to re-evaluate their pricing points. As it stands, if sales are made they clearly know their target market and offer ranges of willow to match each consumer.

Why would they sell these at £300 if they are likely to make the same sales at £350.

At no point have I ever seen B3 as money grabbers and I for one enjoy the contribution that all associated with B3 make to the forum.
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Re: Price of a crown bat
« Reply #37 on: February 15, 2015, 01:55:10 PM »

Let's put this another way .......

Why are you disappointed because a company with a factory, providing employment to a few people, paying overheads, contributing to local clubs and cricket and trying to move forward cricket bat science. Yes they charge £450 but I can guarantee it's no where near the % profit margin of those those who buy machined clefts and sand them down or those those that sticker up bats and charge £300.

It's the best willow, it comes at a price and is less than the big companies charge.

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Re: Price of a crown bat
« Reply #38 on: February 15, 2015, 06:52:08 PM »

Sort of got a bit off topic.

I will say this. If Paul Aldred suddenly added £100 pounds onto his top bat in less than a year or any of the smaller bat makers what would people say if they stated the same reasons as B3?

Like I said, if people are paying that then why not, everyone's out to make money. I hope B3 continue to do well and one day the Old mate can buy a new Jaguar for his family.
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Price of a crown bat
« Reply #39 on: February 15, 2015, 07:09:40 PM »

I was wondering why the crown bats have increased £100 in less than a year? No disrespect intended but to me the same process and craftsmanship that has always been a hallmark of B3 would not have changed much. I'm assuming same machine is being used as is the finishing by human hands.

Most of the other forum sponsors offer amazing deals (Hunts £165 custom G1 for example) where as B3 seem to keep getting more expensive.

I am a very big fan and hope you guys don't head down the GN/GM road where the top bats are over £550.

The topic and responses have morphed a little into questioning the price. it seems to me like the original question focused on the price rise.

I think as a consumer its a valid and natural question but in reality not one that can really ever be answered.

The price is the price and its not dictated by any one factor.. just look at oil. Through a global economic down turn it remained strong, There is now a generally accepted improvement in most economies and oil falls through the floor.

We already heard from the Doctor that willow has not gone up by such numbers and tbh if you are asking your existing customer base to carry the cost of your planned expansion through increased price then you probably have a floored business model. Thats not the case here, B3 are clearly offering competitive products at all price points, their business model has resilience because unless i am mistaken they are producing for other brands.

To me crown willow is the equivalent of a mont blanc pen. In essence there are many other similar products that will do exactly the same job, there is no particular added value in the way they are made and although they look nice (usually) its not going to make my handwriting any neater.

Of all the pens made mont blancs represent a small percentage (like crown willow) and as a result are priced to appeal to the minority that can either afford it or place personal value in having one. Just like bats pens perform at all grades. Therefore the pretty ones can attract a higher price.
That higher price can rise and fall (its not based on costs plus margin) and as its essentially a vanity product then the reason for that rise and fall is not tied to any normal economic logic. As they are rare then the price will always be higher but a change in that higher price does not have to have logic.
Any company that spans the the market in its product offering has to distinguish its premium product in one way or another and price is a pretty clear cut way of doing that, especially when you pride yourself on your attention to customer service at all levels. Reassuringly expensive works because of the basic phycology in our behaviour, its exploited by many companies but in many others (like B3 in my opinion) its an appropriate mechanism to offer a product to those that are willing to spend the money, spend i with themt. In this model the price will always be linked to what people are willing to spend, it has very little to do with the true cost of producing it.

I'm personally unlikely to ever buy a crown bat mainly because i can't justify the cost v my ability to use it but if i was either much richer or a far better batman then i would get one... the price would be the price. Like a great piece of art... if you want it you have to pay the artist what they think its worth, its got nothing to do with the price of fish
 





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Re: Price of a crown bat
« Reply #40 on: February 15, 2015, 08:13:58 PM »

Thanks Sir Richard Branson.  ;)
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Re: Price of a crown bat
« Reply #41 on: February 15, 2015, 08:33:17 PM »

I will put this to bed I hope

The willow is limited very limited we set the price and if you want it that's the price.

I have to admit something that we do not have that many left and crown sales are up.

We do care about customer thoughts very seriously and regard this forum with the upmost respect.

And potzy pal I have asked the gold doctors re your request yesterday sorry no further discounts will be allowed on offers.


Once there gone there gone there not like others limited editions which never run out!!!!
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Re: Price of a crown bat
« Reply #42 on: February 15, 2015, 09:58:06 PM »

Nothing to hide and don't mind sharing the reasons. Got my hands full at the minute (literally) 4 month old sleeping baby and keeping a 4 and 6 year old entertained.... Makes making bats seem easy.

Will hopefully get back on tonight, this will postpone my a post that I was going to do on Pressing.

What do people want to learn about pressing or prices?

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Re: Price of a crown bat
« Reply #43 on: February 16, 2015, 06:29:08 AM »

Excellent, Boondougal!!! well presented. Must have spent some time thinking about the topic and then typing it on an iPad!!! This explains why some of the premium products seem to be priced (un)reasonably. If you have money to spare then spend it on premium products, otherwise go for something less expensive but will do the same job. The company in question is very capable in the second department as well, the 2 one stripe bats I have are very very good. And I know that Doc has spent quite a lot of time on perfecting my designs for me.
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Re: Price of a crown bat
« Reply #44 on: February 16, 2015, 08:35:45 AM »


Excellent, Boondougal!!! well presented. Must have spent some time thinking about the topic and then typing it on an iPad!!!

Cheers. I have a keyboard in my case so it's just like using a small laptop.
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