Topic: Time to restrict bat development : Martin Crowe (Read 13441 times)

skip1973 · « **Reply #45 on:** February 23, 2015, 10:54:56 PM »

That's why every team in this world cup are throwing the ball in on the bounce.

Ragamuffin · « **Reply #46 on:** February 24, 2015, 12:01:14 AM »

A company in Midrand produce some great cricket balls which would be ideal for the current cricketing climate. I'm sure Gerry SA will know of them.

tim2000s · « **Reply #47 on:** February 24, 2015, 07:46:21 AM »

Quote from: skip1973 on February 23, 2015, 10:54:56 PM

That's why every team in this world cup are throwing the ball in on the bounce.

This also scuffs up one side to encourage reverse swing.

And anyone think that Chris Gayle's bats need to be restricted after today?

WalkingWicket37 · « **Reply #48 on:** February 24, 2015, 09:41:21 AM »

Quote from: tim2000s on February 24, 2015, 07:46:21 AM

This also scuffs up one side to encourage reverse swing.

And anyone think that Chris Gayle's bats need to be restricted after today?

Zimbabwe learning to catch and bowl legal deliveries might have been better

TBONTB · « **Reply #49 on:** February 24, 2015, 10:07:31 AM »

Its the same argument that is going on in rugby. Everybody is too big and heavy and its turned into a size and territory game rather than skill. The game has moved on, and if they do intend on restricting it, it will turn out like F1 at the moment were the rules are so restrictive the best designer (Adrain Newey - Red Bull) have gone off to design Ben Ansliee's boats. What about a spec series for cricket. Bats can be different weights but not different size, must use ballast in the toe or handle! All must be the same shape.... Or maybe the balls could be medicine balls, if you use a bigger bat, make the ball harder to hit?

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #50 on:** February 24, 2015, 10:29:45 AM »

as I've said and others, make the pitches as big as possible, use one ball, get rid of fielding restrictions and make sporting wickets rather than flat decks ripe for biffing. Get it so the first ten overs the ball nips around, seams around.. slow the scoring down by utilising bowlers skill who can land the ball on the seam etc. Finch/Warner and co wouldn't be able to just stand and hit if the ball is hooping, reversing and seaming around like a trooper.

Stuey · « **Reply #51 on:** February 24, 2015, 12:08:50 PM »

Is the size of bats being overplayed? They are not wider, and the stumps haven't decreased in size or width and with only willow being allowed in the making of the blade, bats will reach a natural maximum size before the become to dry and break too soon and negate performance. Sure bats today give batsman more bang for their buck, but a good ball is still a good ball. My take is that batsmen now days have adapted to the modern game, where as the bowlers (in general) are still too catch up. Hawkeye has given bowlers as much assistance as thicker less dense bats have for batsman, with umpires now willling to give more decisions and the fielding team having the ability to appeal against a not out. For me the 4 fielders outside the circle needs addressing back to 5, to even things up.

TangoWhiskey · « **Reply #52 on:** February 24, 2015, 05:02:15 PM »

I remain unconvinced that a lower volume (smaller) bat with the same mass as a higher volume (bigger) bat will hit the ball different distances.

uknsaunders · « **Reply #53 on:** February 25, 2015, 08:40:11 AM »

2 new balls was brought in because they were changing the ball after 30 overs anyway. So you spent 25 overs getting it to reverse, had 5 overs of reverse and then had to start again !

WalkingWicket37 · « **Reply #54 on:** February 25, 2015, 09:27:23 AM »

Quote from: uknsaunders on February 25, 2015, 08:40:11 AM

2 new balls was brought in because they were changing the ball after 30 overs anyway. So you spent 25 overs getting it to reverse, had 5 overs of reverse and then had to start again !

Now you get two no balls that go better off the bat as they'r harder, and there's 25 overs of no swing from both ends, perfect solution!

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #55 on:** February 25, 2015, 09:42:42 AM »

they could use better balls maybe?? That actually last 50 overs? Novel idea

uknsaunders · « **Reply #56 on:** February 25, 2015, 09:46:58 AM »

Quote from: ProCricketer1982 on February 25, 2015, 09:42:42 AM

they could use better balls maybe?? That actually last 50 overs? Novel idea

or go the other way and use less hard wearing balls that scuff easily and give the bowlers something to work with. The problem as I see it is the Kook balls themselves. Why not try another brand, both the SG and Duke balls are known to swing.

This might sound a stupid question but do we use white Kook balls for UK based ODI's and First class cricket?

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #57 on:** February 25, 2015, 10:10:56 AM »

Quote from: uknsaunders on February 25, 2015, 09:46:58 AM

or go the other way and use less hard wearing balls that scuff easily and give the bowlers something to work with. The problem as I see it is the Kook balls themselves. Why not try another brand, both the SG and Duke balls are known to swing.

This might sound a stupid question but do we use white Kook balls for UK based ODI's and First class cricket?

would a worse ball not go soft etc? ie.. be easier to biff?

Surely a higher quality ball would hold it's seam better, hold shine etc??

Kez · « **Reply #58 on:** February 25, 2015, 10:12:01 AM »

Quote from: uknsaunders on February 25, 2015, 09:46:58 AM

or go the other way and use less hard wearing balls that scuff easily and give the bowlers something to work with. The problem as I see it is the Kook balls themselves. Why not try another brand, both the SG and Duke balls are known to swing.

This might sound a stupid question but do we use white Kook balls for UK based ODI's and First class cricket?

Yes the white kookaburra turf is the ball of choice.

uknsaunders · « **Reply #59 on:** February 25, 2015, 10:41:25 AM »

Quote from: ProCricketer1982 on February 25, 2015, 10:10:56 AM

would a worse ball not go soft etc? ie.. be easier to biff?

Surely a higher quality ball would hold it's seam better, hold shine etc??

Go to Sports Direct and buy a �2.99 Fernley ball. It will go soft in about a dozen deliveries and then see how far you can hit it compared to a league ball. Having a softer ball will reduce hitting distance but the bowlers should still be able to swing it if it shines up. Obviously not advocating Sports Direct balls for ODI's but you get the idea.

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