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English Post Mortem
« on: March 09, 2015, 11:48:38 AM »

Where do we go from here...  Aside from the obvious sack the board/coaches comments.

We only have one ODI player who would get into most teams in the world - Jos Buttler.  Lets get him upto 5 firstly and set the agenda in a match.  In addition, lets invest in James Taylor and let him skipper and bat 3.  Lets discard Anderson and let him focus on test cricket.

One to Eleven

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2.
3. Taylor
4.
5. Buttler
6. Ali
7.
8. Woakes
9. Jordan
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11.

Other spaces all up for grabs as far as I'm concerned.  Everyone elses thoughts?
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Re: English Post Mortem
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2015, 11:50:47 AM »

Bin jordan as far as im concerned im affraid.
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Re: English Post Mortem
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2015, 11:52:42 AM »

I feel Jordan's gone backwards - however, may be worth sticking with him.

Should be looking at Parry, Rashid, Riley or someone - in ODI cricket, I don't see a problem with two spinners, particularly if you get Stokes or Bopara operating as a 4th seamer.

I don't see enough domestic cricket, but names I see bandied about include:

Vince
Coles
Billings
Topley
Brooks
Wood
Roland-Jones
Malan


and are Wright, Lumb and Borthwick still worth a look at?
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Re: English Post Mortem
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2015, 11:55:20 AM »

How has Root been left out of all this? He's probably been the best playing in all formats for England for the last 2 years!
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Re: English Post Mortem
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2015, 11:55:31 AM »

Jason Roy has to open
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Re: English Post Mortem
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2015, 11:56:31 AM »

Where do we go from here...  Aside from the obvious sack the board/coaches comments.

We only have one ODI player who would get into most teams in the world - Jos Buttler.  Lets get him upto 5 firstly and set the agenda in a match.  In addition, lets invest in James Taylor and let him skipper and bat 3.  Lets discard Anderson and let him focus on test cricket.

One to Eleven

1.
2.
3. Taylor
4.
5. Buttler
6. Ali
7.
8. Woakes
9. Jordan
10.
11.

Other spaces all up for grabs as far as I'm concerned.  Everyone elses thoughts?

You're dropping Joe Root? Really?
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Re: English Post Mortem
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2015, 11:58:48 AM »

Pick an actual spinner for one thing.
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Re: English Post Mortem
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2015, 11:59:26 AM »

I feel Jordan's gone backwards - however, may be worth sticking with him.

Should be looking at Parry, Rashid, Riley or someone - in ODI cricket, I don't see a problem with two spinners, particularly if you get Stokes or Bopara operating as a 4th seamer.

I don't see enough domestic cricket, but names I see bandied about include:

Vince
Coles
Billings
Topley
Brooks
Wood
Roland-Jones
Malan


and are Wright, Lumb and Borthwick still worth a look at?

Coles will need to find a county.
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Re: English Post Mortem
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2015, 12:01:47 PM »

As much as picking the right players is key, what really needs to change is English crickets attitude. We need need more positivity, less what players can't do and more what they can do. With this approach Hales would have been in when he was rated the world best T20 bat and could well have kicked on for the WC. Until the attitude changes results won't.
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« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2015, 12:02:07 PM »

To me there is a pattern with Moores - great at finding talent, absolutely useless at developing it at international level. England only improved once he left last time, even though some of players were his picks.

I think we need somebody who can take the younger players on to another level and be brave to pick from the talent that's being held back. We had a better team playing in the big bash for heavens sake!

Get Colly in as ODI coach now and give Moores until the end of the summer to prove he is a decent test match coach.
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Re: English Post Mortem
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2015, 12:06:13 PM »

1.ROY
2.HALES
3. Taylor
4.ROOT
5. Buttler
6. Ali
7.STOKES
8. Woakes
9. Jordan
10.
11.

i'd add those (caps) into the side from the first post, just need another seamer (maybe finn) and a spinner for me
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Re: English Post Mortem
« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2015, 12:06:34 PM »

Apologies.  Realised afterwards that Root had been unfairly left out!
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3. Taylor
4. Root
5. Buttler
6. Ali
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8. Woakes
9. Jordan
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11.

Personally I'd get Roy, Billings and Stokes in there.
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« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2015, 12:08:23 PM »

Id also say i reckon mik newell would be a great international coach, he uses basically the same group of players for the LVCC and domestic one day stuff at notts but has multiple mindsets, possibly the best coach/manager on the domestic circuit why not promote him to the england job as hes already a selector.
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Re: English Post Mortem
« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2015, 12:09:19 PM »

Colly head coach

With Backroom of Gough and Nixon for me
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Re: English Post Mortem
« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2015, 12:11:16 PM »

yeah we must start with the coach. I wonder what Giles thinks now?
seriously we need a new coach right now, the game cannot be won with computers,charts,graphs...it's won by match experience and thinking cricketers..

and Broad is a liability now. should never play another one dayer for us,Anderson no better.

morgan has got less runs than Cook but got shafted by his two supposed senior bowlers
abject rubbish we have been
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