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[Kieron_BT]

Just really hoping they don't go after Jason Gillespie and leave Yorkshire without him!

[uknsaunders]

yeah we must start with the coach. I wonder what Giles thinks now?
seriously we need a new coach right now, the game cannot be won with computers,charts,graphs...it's won by match experience and thinking cricketers..

and Broad is a liability now. should never play another one dayer for us,Anderson no better.

morgan has got less runs than Cook but got shafted by his two supposed senior bowlers
abject rubbish we have been

Giles main complaint while in charge was never being able to play his best team. While the back to back ashes did cause a unique challenge and was a total muck up by the ECB, I don't see why Anderson didn't go to Sri Lanka. Talking of Giles, he unearthed Lumb to open the batting and he did pretty well until Moores thought he knew better with Cook.

To me a pattern is developing - taking t20 players with the hitting ability and moulding them into ODI players. Warner/Finch for example. Not sure the practise of taking test cricketers and turning them into ODI players is going to work for England in every case. Don't see Australia playing Rodgers do you, but we persisted with Cook!

[Stuey]

Colly head coach

With Backroom of Gough and Nixon for me

That's not a bad shout, get some coaches/management in who have walked the walk.

[Giraffe208]

To me a pattern is developing - taking t20 players with the hitting ability and moulding them into ODI players. Warner/Finch for example. Not sure the practise of taking test cricketers and turning them into ODI players is going to work for England in every case. Don't see Australia playing Rodgers do you, but we persisted with Cook!

This!

All other nations have cricketers who play without fear and play positive cricket. They will attack first and if it's a good ball, defend or leave it when necessary. Our approach for years has been don't get out and then hit the bad ball. For other Nations to score 300+ regularly, there can't be that many bad balls! They just turn a high percentage shot option into a boundary option and back their skills! Why oh why do the players continually fear they will be dropped if they fail.

Playing to avoid failure will not bring success compared to those who play to succeed!

[tate035]

Answer is simple. Put people in the positions they are for their county. Use the players where they have been a success!

1) Roy
2) Hales
3) Root
4) Stokes
5) Taylor
6) Ali
7) Butler
Willey
9) Tredwell
10) Wood
11) Finn

Every team has a top spinner so why Tredwell left out? You need a strike bowler like Finn. WOOD AND WILLEY have been bowling at the death for last few years. Give them an extended run, and we have a lot of young kids with one day skill.
It's time to have virtually separate one day teams to test match squads. We don't have (yet) the Warners, Dilshans, sangakarra etc so let's get different coaches to work on the one day sides and test match side as different skills sets.
Let Taylor be captain and give him time to sort things out. I would prefer Root to stick to being a test match player only as I think his play suffers in.tests after playing a one day series. All to often he gets out playing one day shots...

[procricket]

I would like to see James Vince in there somewhere.

Taylor i like the idea of him as captain l

[arsenal123]

I actually think Vince is an all round better player than Hales anyways.

Also, if putting players in positions where they have been a success Taylor must bat at 3.  Has been the best 3 in county cricket for a long time.

The forum seems pretty settled on Roy, Root, Taylor, Stokes, Buttler.  Build the team around them.

[tate035]

To be honest most of the county one day games I have seen Taylor in, he has batted 4/5. If he bats at 3 I think he gets found out by the shorter ball and having fielders close in early on. I know he has had success for England at 3 but they were mainly slow pitches.
Wouldn't disagree with Vince, Billings, Bairstow, Ansari and the Yorkshire lads.

[uknsaunders]

Answer is simple. Put people in the positions they are for their county. Use the players where they have been a success!

1) Roy
2) Hales
3) Root
4) Stokes
5) Taylor
6) Ali
7) Butler
Willey
9) Tredwell
10) Wood
11) Finn

Every team has a top spinner so why Tredwell left out? You need a strike bowler like Finn. WOOD AND WILLEY have been bowling at the death for last few years. Give them an extended run, and we have a lot of young kids with one day skill.
It's time to have virtually separate one day teams to test match squads. We don't have (yet) the Warners, Dilshans, sangakarra etc so let's get different coaches to work on the one day sides and test match side as different skills sets.
Let Taylor be captain and give him time to sort things out. I would prefer Root to stick to being a test match player only as I think his play suffers in.tests after playing a one day series. All to often he gets out playing one day shots...

There is a balance to be had though. Part of the reason test players are used for ODI cricket is because they can play at that level. Some players who do well at County level simply aren't good enough to play international cricket. Using the 90s for examples - Chris Adams, John Morris - both big county players but came up short internationally for whatever reason. The problem with throwing in lots of players without test credentials is you end losing alot (which we do anyway) and the revolving door issue, which isn't great for morale. I doubt Wood/Willey are ODI quality bowlers but they can't be any worse than Gurney. It's just a case of how you blend the team together over time.

[Manormanic]

Hmmmm...

[ProCricketer1982]

sack everyone involved with the ECB, anyone who has blindly followed them also must go. Sack every analyst, coach, manager, kit man involved with the whole set up (including lions, kids etc.. the lot have failed)


I'd break the England set up into three teams, each one independent of the other with different coaches, analysts, managers etc (although, obviously there can be some cross over with some jobs in the support admin staff). Bring in the right staff for the job in hand.

The only players I'd keep from this mob is Root, Moeen (although he'd never open again and would have to improve his spin to become a front line spinner), Hales, Buttler and Taylor. The rest are kicked out on their ear and all central contracts removed immediately. I'd do away with central contracts and go on a game by game reward system for players with the most money going to test players and going down fromt here. Players MUST play for their counties regularly and teams picked on form, not just teh same mob having a cushy lifestyle like the idiots we have now. In theory it should make them the best but as we've seen, they get lazy, and lose touch with reality.


all the normal names need putting in straight away and the culture of fear needs bringing to an end. whilst I don't wnat to see slogging all the time unfortunately that's the way the pro game has gone so we need sloggers.

Players like Carberry, Lumb, Vince, Roy, Rashid, Stokes.

Finn needs binning until he can bowl 90 mph again, at the minute he's just painful to watch and cannon fodder

[arsenal123]

I would like to see Stokes be given a license to be the player we all know he could become.

Put him in as both a 6th bowler and 6th batsman in the same way as Corey Anderson has been used for NZ and Maxwell for Australia.  No pressure of having to come off every time to own his place in the side, let him win games and develop naturally.

Maxwell was not discarded after some brainless cricket and Aus will reap the rewards for years.  Lets hope England will do the same.  I won't hold my breath.  This is a selection panel that will try and turn Hales into a number 3 accumulator...

[Manormanic]

As a policy issue I would like England to treat the formats (at least single vs multiple day games) as properly seperate now and pick squads to reflect that.  The amount of cricket England are going to play over the next 12 months - 15 tests in ten months IIRC - means that there should be a prompt cull of any Test player who won't be under 30 at the start of the next world cup (so Anderson, Broad, Bell are gone) - there would then have to be some consideration as to whether or not Root and Buttler (and possibly Woakes and Ali as well, though neither should be anything like a lock for the Test side just yet) can realy sustain the workload being demanded of them.

Then, pick a squad of players - 15-16 should be enough - and stick with them for the next 18 months.

Who?  Ah, thats tricky. My selection might be:

Hales
Ali
Roy
Vince
Stokes
Buttler
Morgan (c)
Rashid
Woakes
Jordan
Footitt

Plus Willey, Lees, Riley, Ali and Mills

[ProCricketer1982]

As a policy issue I would like England to treat the formats (at least single vs multiple day games) as properly seperate now and pick squads to reflect that.  The amount of cricket England are going to play over the next 12 months - 15 tests in ten months IIRC - means that there should be a prompt cull of any Test player who won't be under 30 at the start of the next world cup (so Anderson, Broad, Bell are gone) - there would then have to be some consideration as to whether or not Root and Buttler (and possibly Woakes and Ali as well, though neither should be anything like a lock for the Test side just yet) can realy sustain the workload being demanded of them.

Then, pick a squad of players - 15-16 should be enough - and stick with them for the next 18 months.

Who?  Ah, thats tricky. My selection might be:

Hales
Ali
Roy
Vince
Stokes
Buttler
Morgan (c)
Rashid
Woakes
Jordan
Footitt

Plus Willey, Lees, Riley, Ali and Mills

Agree on workloads. Would you prioritise Tests? ODI's ? T20's?   So if Buttler/Root for arguements sake are going to play all forms.. they won't survive long term due ot burn out.. What do we put first? Personally, tests. That's where the wages and ECB money should be focused to encourage players to be proper players but others Im sure disagree.

[uknsaunders]

there should be a prompt cull of any Test player who won't be under 30 at the start of the next world cup (so Anderson, Broad, Bell are gone)

Bit harsh on Broad, currently 28, to end his ODI career now when he will only be 32 at the next world cup. Then again he's been rubbish for a long time in ODI cricket, so we can drop him on form anyway