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Re: England Squad for the West Indies
« Reply #31 on: March 16, 2015, 03:57:12 PM »

yep those stats are interesting.

here's another one for you -

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/records/bowling/most_wickets_career.html?id=9637;type=tournament

all of the top 5 wicket takers in the Windies Regional Comp (Jamica etc..) are spinners!!

that tells me with all the data analysis that the England team do  ;) we should be playing 2 spinners - probably Rashid for me (along with Ali)
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Re: England Squad for the West Indies
« Reply #32 on: March 16, 2015, 04:14:41 PM »

I cant see them doing anything too drastic tbh. Can see Trott coming back in but other than i wouldnt be too surprised if the rest of the test team stayed the same as the final test against India.

How did Lyth get on with the lions? Think he and a few others (Rashid, Billings as backup keeper maybe?) may get into the touring squad for some experience
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Re: England Squad for the West Indies
« Reply #33 on: March 16, 2015, 06:12:52 PM »

Personally I would rather see us to with some youth and lose trying the the crap we have had to watch for a while. stokes, Lyth, Mills (the bloke can be our Mitch some days awful other days too much to handle) rashid or Riley.

Also look at the ODI squad and play the player were looking at for next WC so Bell-Drummond, billings, Roy, Vince and such like
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Re: England Squad for the West Indies
« Reply #34 on: March 16, 2015, 06:42:54 PM »

yep those stats are interesting.

here's another one for you -

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/records/bowling/most_wickets_career.html?id=9637;type=tournament

all of the top 5 wicket takers in the Windies Regional Comp (Jamica etc..) are spinners!!

that tells me with all the data analysis that the England team do  ;) we should be playing 2 spinners - probably Rashid for me (along with Ali)


could do worse than wheel out Panesar if it's turning. Still the best spinner we have.
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Re: England Squad for the West Indies
« Reply #35 on: March 16, 2015, 07:32:26 PM »

The 2nd spinner question is an interesting one because they have a genuine chance of playing and doing well rather than just going on tour and carrying the drinks.
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Re: England Squad for the West Indies
« Reply #36 on: March 16, 2015, 08:01:12 PM »

Cook
Trott
Balance
Bell
Root
Ali
Buttler
Broad
Kerrigan
Anderson
Finn

Robson, Lyth, Taylor, Stokes, Borthwick, Jordan and Woakes to make up an 18 man squad.
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Re: England Squad for the West Indies
« Reply #37 on: March 16, 2015, 08:25:41 PM »

Sorry but Finn is unelectable until he sorts his run up and action out and bowls quick again. It is a 2 test tour of the windies, so 14/5 players tops should go.

The batters will be
cook, trott, ballance, bell, root, Ali plus Robson and Taylor.
Keepers will be butler and Bairstow
bowlers will be
broad, Anderson, Jordan, plunkett plus another spinner.
All the talk is the spinner will be Rashid. I think it should be panasar.

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Re: England Squad for the West Indies
« Reply #38 on: March 16, 2015, 08:27:54 PM »

Personally I would rather see us to with some youth and lose trying the the crap we have had to watch for a while. stokes, Lyth, Mills (the bloke can be our Mitch some days awful other days too much to handle) rashid or Riley.

Also look at the ODI squad and play the player were looking at for next WC so Bell-Drummond, billings, Roy, Vince and such like

Bell Drummond is surely nowhere near an England call up, he's never really kicked on and has a log way to go to get in a lions squad if you ask me. Got your kent rose tinted glasses on by any chance? :-)
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Re: England Squad for the West Indies
« Reply #39 on: March 16, 2015, 09:12:04 PM »

West Indies will probably have dry pitches for the series, considering England are pretty hapless against spin.

Guyanese duo Devendra Bishoo and Veerasammy Permaul have taken over 100 wickets between them in the ongoing regional FC competition.

England WILL need 2 spinners.
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Re: England Squad for the West Indies
« Reply #40 on: March 16, 2015, 09:31:28 PM »

Rashid and Ali presumably.
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Re: England Squad for the West Indies
« Reply #41 on: March 16, 2015, 09:41:52 PM »

Sorry but Finn is unelectable until he sorts his run up and action out and bowls quick again. It is a 2 test tour of the windies, so 14/5 players tops should go.

The batters will be
cook, trott, ballance, bell, root, Ali plus Robson and Taylor.
Keepers will be butler and Bairstow
bowlers will be
broad, Anderson, Jordan, plunkett plus another spinner.
All the talk is the spinner will be Rashid. I think it should be panasar.

I think Buzz is pretty much spot on with what it will be, apart from they may think Robson is done and give Lyth a chance.
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Re: England Squad for the West Indies
« Reply #42 on: March 16, 2015, 09:51:33 PM »

Food for thought?

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/records/averages/batting_bowling_by_team.html?id=9199;team=1003;type=series


Limited because it was only a two test series and the pitches will have skewed the numbers even more.  Trott got 200 on a featherbed and nothing in testing conditions. 
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Re: England Squad for the West Indies
« Reply #43 on: March 16, 2015, 09:54:03 PM »

I would like them to pick a side something like:

Cook
Lyth
Balance
Root
Bell
Ali (if fit)
Buttler
Rashid
Woakes (if fit)
Broad
Anderson

with Taylor, Stokes, Finn and Footitt in reserve.

Think that side gives us a nice balance of youth and experience. Gone with 2 spinners as pitches will be flat. As mentioned above Lyth has earned the right to open the batting for the next 6-8 tests.

If the pitches are going to be flat then why pick woakes?  To be honest I would leave Broad or Anderson behind to. if we are to beat Australia then surely it won't be taking on their pace attack . If we are to get our pitches as slow turners then we need to blood a few more slower bowlers. Rashid just doesn't bowl tight enough to be considered a test match bowler.
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Re: England Squad for the West Indies
« Reply #44 on: March 16, 2015, 09:56:01 PM »

I think Buzz is pretty much spot on with what it will be, apart from they may think Robson is done and give Lyth a chance.

Not far off. They'll take five seamers, though.
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