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[KIPPERS]

Look away now. All the old boys are back. Why pick people then don't play them? Plunkets a better bowler than Jordan

[ProCricketer1982]

it's a bit of a pointless tour. WI are so weak it's just a ego massage for players like Cook, Broad and co. They'll smash WI, get big runs and the media/ECB will coo over how good they are, how much they don't need new players and then will get smashed by the australians and it'll be 'it's ok, they've scored loads recently, we can keep them going a bit longer'

[smilley792]

Can't agree more procricket1982.


Especially as the england camp have already announced "win in the West Indies and we can then move on from pietersen"


They might aswell, have said. "Have a holiday and a net and we'll then claim your all in good enough Nick to not pick pietersen"

[SLC]

This will be the series where Bell translates his 'looking good in the nets' into big runs!

[iand123]

it's a bit of a pointless tour. WI are so weak it's just a ego massage for players like Cook, Broad and co. They'll smash WI, get big runs and the media/ECB will coo over how good they are, how much they don't need new players and then will get smashed by the australians and it'll be 'it's ok, they've scored loads recently, we can keep them going a bit longer'

I agree they are weak but what would you suggest as an alternative? For the good of world cricket all teams need to go around the world and play even the weaker test sides or the test game will very quickly just be Eng, Aus, India and SA playing each other

[ProCricketer1982]

I agree they are weak but what would you suggest as an alternative? For the good of world cricket all teams need to go around the world and play even the weaker test sides or the test game will very quickly just be Eng, Aus, India and SA playing each other

you are right of course, the 'big' teams do need to tour the smaller nations for the good of the game. However, as Cam points out.. ECB/media will hail some runs and a few wins as the end of poor England, the second coming of them and as stated 'move on from KP'.

People seem reluctant to actually say 'if you don't avg 60+ vs such teams then you aren't performing'

[Rob580]

Whilst i agree it may end up being a waste of time, this tour will have been pencilled in the Future Tours thingy for years. Way before KP stated his desire to seriously return, before he even retired in the first place.

Hell, we were probably still good when it was planned, it was so long ago

[tim2000s]

The ECB facebook page wsa making a thing out of bowling them out for sweet FA, and the result? A lot of abuse from the people who follow the ECB. Similar to this thread in fact!

[ppccopener]

this tour was indeed planned ages ago so we have to go on it. it wont do a great deal in regards to the Ashes coming up and we look like second favourites for that(although I still believe it will be a close series)

West Indies cricket needs the tour now, the need revenue.High and mighty India still have the axe hovering over them from the cancelled tour last year.

I'm sure even genuine Indian fans would not want to see the Windies backrupted,because that is a very real threat if they hammer them thru fines and penalties.

The ECB, for getting into bed with India and Australia and to hell with the world game, are no better in my book

[Buzz]

It is hardly the ECB's fault that the St Kitts invitational XI is terrible and includes a 16 year old!

This is a good tour and it will be good for the Eng team to play test cricket again. We cannot be so arrogant to think oh we will walk past the WIndies team - for a number of reasons

Firstly they have a decent bowling attack - in many cases comparable to ours, they have some talented young batsmen who will be hungry for the riches their IPL colleagues are collecting, so will want to put up a good fight.
plus our team are mollycoddled and can't think for themselves.
The pitches are a largely unknown quantity, but will likely be low and slow.

I am not sure the one day specialists who are in India will be hugely missed.

The Eng cricket team is not currently all that good, this tour will prove that.

[ProCricketer1982]

The ECB facebook page wsa making a thing out of bowling them out for sweet FA, and the result? A lot of abuse from the people who follow the ECB. Similar to this thread in fact!

Yes but why make a big deal in getting out poor players?? Who really shows off getting poorer players out?

[iand123]

you are right of course, the 'big' teams do need to tour the smaller nations for the good of the game. However, as Cam points out.. ECB/media will hail some runs and a few wins as the end of poor England, the second coming of them and as stated 'move on from KP'.

People seem reluctant to actually say 'if you don't avg 60+ vs such teams then you aren't performing'

People should say that, after they were skittled for 59 seems a few pundits on Twitter seem to be saying exactly that. Just hope the media and fans dont get sucked into the football national side mentality of one decent performance and everyone starts talking of a golden generation

[tim2000s]

I think the issue @buzz is that the majority of the cricket watching public is already well aware of how good the England team is. It is just the ECB that isn't.


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[uknsaunders]

@buzz care to explain what the twitter storm was about today? Hard to follow all the tweets.

[iand123]

@Buzz care to explain what the twitter storm was about today? Hard to follow all the tweets.

Had to do some actual work today, what Twitter storm?