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Re: England Squad for the West Indies
« Reply #240 on: April 07, 2015, 06:22:12 PM »

Involving mike selvey, Derek Pringle and a few fans, to do with KP.
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Re: England Squad for the West Indies
« Reply #241 on: April 07, 2015, 06:24:44 PM »

Involving mike selvey, Derek Pringle and a few fans, to do with KP.

Unlike KP to get involved in a Twitter row......
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Re: England Squad for the West Indies
« Reply #242 on: April 07, 2015, 06:25:54 PM »

Wasn't KP, I think it was something to do with a piece selvey wrote, but buzz knows all about it.
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Re: England Squad for the West Indies
« Reply #243 on: April 07, 2015, 06:43:53 PM »

@Buzz care to explain what the twitter storm was about today? Hard to follow all the tweets.

In simple terms someone called Elaine asked Selvey and Pringle not to be so odious and in the pockets of the ECB

you can read the thread here: https://twitter.com/selvecricket/status/584985662169948160

it enters the realms of bonkersness when Pringle suggests that KP has an agenda (and the ECB doesn't!) and that KP's claims are all false because they have been denied by the perpetrators...

It culminates with Selvey tweeting:
"you imply dishonesty then and when someone queries my integrity they are out of here."

The fact is that Selvey, Pringle and the guy from the independent have been biased and dreadful from the beginning, have been totally impartial and are just looking out for their mates.

KP wasn't involved

The whole thing is disgusting. 

Note that Elaine is a pensioner!! Not a young pretender spoiling for a fight.
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Re: England Squad for the West Indies
« Reply #244 on: April 07, 2015, 07:00:04 PM »

Exact reason i hate the whole affair the water so murky all i see is one loser English Cricket as a whole the whole lot is a shambles the lot.

Kp is a pleb but so are others for not managing him and others better and the fall out well it just crap...

Piss up in Timothy Taylor Brewery would be better!!!
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Re: England Squad for the West Indies
« Reply #245 on: April 07, 2015, 07:48:09 PM »

Ah ok. I did notice that the guardian posted a link to a story title "Cook and Trott put St Kitts to the sword" which had been commented on by Elaine and selvey has a few mentions too.

Press seem to be very much in the pockets of the ECB, can't say I blame them as with the number of "leaks" coming from the ECB must make your life as a cricket journo an extremely easy ride!
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Re: England Squad for the West Indies
« Reply #246 on: April 07, 2015, 07:50:17 PM »

Ah ok. I did notice that the guardian posted a link to a story title "Cook and Trott put St Kitts to the sword" which had been commented on by Elaine and selvey has a few mentions too.

Press seem to be very much in the pockets of the ECB, can't say I blame them as with the number of "leaks" coming from the ECB must make your life as a cricket journo an extremely easy ride!

That's the issue though for me, once you get too close to those in theory you are reporting on, you lose focus, you lose objectivness and most all, you lose neutrality. So these guys end up just being the media arm of the ECB.
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Re: England Squad for the West Indies
« Reply #247 on: April 08, 2015, 07:02:53 AM »

That's the issue though for me, once you get too close to those in theory you are reporting on, you lose focus, you lose objectivness and most all, you lose neutrality. So these guys end up just being the media arm of the ECB.

Agree, it means that the ECB can pretty much get away with anything. With the media in their pockets its up to the fans to vote with their feet. Whilst attendances in the North over the last few summers for test matches have been down slightly the London games will always sell out. The ECB then deny there is a problem as they still make money and can still throw a number of sell outs/spectators at the media who lap it up and pretend all is rosy and good. Be interesting to see the reaction to this summers ashes given the amount of ashes cricket played in recent years
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Re: England Squad for the West Indies
« Reply #248 on: April 08, 2015, 08:51:29 AM »

Why are these two so 'loved' as cricket writers ? Surely their editor sees that hey aren't reporting just cycling ECB PR.. Or is that what normal management do too? Just take the easy road.
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Re: England Squad for the West Indies
« Reply #249 on: April 08, 2015, 10:44:52 AM »

I think because mainstream media have stopped covering cricket in such depth there are less and less journos reporting on cricket. It leaves the ones who are left in a higher regard than would normally be because there isn't much competition to compare with (at least in my opinion anyway)
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Re: England Squad for the West Indies
« Reply #250 on: April 08, 2015, 11:32:08 AM »

not sure who is rating selvey and pringle,who is now the size of a semi detatched house...highly.

don't know if it's the average cricket fan.

Atherton I reckon is the best modern day writer as far as the newspapers go. Selvey and Pringle probably saw similar type situations in their playing days almost certainly dealt with in a different manner- a pint or a fight probably.

English cricket is still an old boys club it's no surprise that extends to the press. Certainly Pringle and the Daily Mail has tried to do a hatchet job on KP in the past

eventually thou the fans will see thru all the spin and agendas.Either they want England to move on from this sorry mess or want KP back asap.
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Re: England Squad for the West Indies
« Reply #251 on: April 08, 2015, 12:29:30 PM »

So how is today's line up going to work?  I must say, 2 days doesn't seem to give people much of a chance.

For my tuppence worth, I feel that Rashid needs a good long bowl, as do Anderson and Broad.

Balance, Lyth, Bell and Root need some time in the middle too.

I'd win the toss and bat all day today, with guys retiring on 65.

I'd line up as -

Trott
Lyth
Balance
Bell
Root
Buttler
Rashid
Broad
Plunkett
Anderson
Tredwell

I have a feeling that Stokes is already pencilled in but I feel 2 spinners may work for us out there, so it's a shootout amongst the seamers for who is fit / in form.

The I think the batting places are between Lyth / Trott / Balance, so they need a fair dig.
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Re: England Squad for the West Indies
« Reply #252 on: April 08, 2015, 02:22:22 PM »

Trott opening for St Kitts and went for a 3rd ball Duck, Bairstow and Ballance also batting for them.
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Re: England Squad for the West Indies
« Reply #253 on: April 08, 2015, 02:33:36 PM »

cant work out why Bairstow is playing, how does he fit into the test team?

also....for those cynical about the ECB backing press Wisden magazine has articles on the web basically slating the ECB and how English cricket is run

they are right...and it's quite refreshing :)
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Re: England Squad for the West Indies
« Reply #254 on: April 08, 2015, 02:42:48 PM »

cant work out why Bairstow is playing, how does he fit into the test team?

Reserve Keeper and a decent batting cover.

Also, he's the token ginger. There's quotas to fill don't you know....
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