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Re: Saker leaves England bowling coaching position
« Reply #15 on: March 16, 2015, 08:31:17 PM »

Although Saker did a good job when he first came in the last year or so our bowlers have handled poorly and have been given poor plans to work to. I think it is a good time for him to move on and could well have been forced to leave following the world cup debacle. I would like to see Graeme Welch given the opportunity, he's done a remarkable job coaching bowlers in county cricket. If not Welch then maybe Donald or Gibson would be interested and I would be happy with either of those.
I wouldn't approach Gough. I hear him on TalkSPORT regularly and he has some strange and inconsistent opinions. Good players do not always make the best coaches.
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Re: Saker leaves England bowling coaching position
« Reply #16 on: March 16, 2015, 09:04:21 PM »

Brett Lee
Alan Donald
Otis Gibson
Javagal Srinath
Ian Pont
Craig White
Hands off, he's staying with us
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Re: Saker leaves England bowling coaching position
« Reply #17 on: March 16, 2015, 09:05:47 PM »

Hands off, he's staying with us

How about we get Alan Donald and keep Jade Dernbach, can't say fairer than that  ;)
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Re: Saker leaves England bowling coaching position
« Reply #18 on: March 16, 2015, 09:14:21 PM »

How about we get Alan Donald and keep Jade Dernbach, can't say fairer than that  ;)
counteroffer: keep Dernbach and feel free never to mention he was ever South African  :(
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Re: Saker leaves England bowling coaching position
« Reply #19 on: March 16, 2015, 09:17:09 PM »

counteroffer: keep Dernbach and feel free never to mention he was ever South African  :(

Fine we'll settle on that. He has an Italian passport so we can deny he's English  ;)
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Re: Saker leaves England bowling coaching position
« Reply #20 on: March 16, 2015, 09:24:45 PM »

Fine we'll settle on that. He has an Italian passport so we can deny he's English  ;)
Works for me  :D
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Re: Saker leaves England bowling coaching position
« Reply #21 on: March 16, 2015, 11:01:56 PM »

Have my feelings that a good bowling coach could make Jade Dernbach into a seriously good limited overs bowler in all fairness...                     *takes shelter*
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Re: Saker leaves England bowling coaching position
« Reply #22 on: March 16, 2015, 11:36:52 PM »

Ian Pont or Steffan Jones seem to be the bowling Guru's on twitter, why not give them a go?

Because so much good bowling is done on Twitter...


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Re: Saker leaves England bowling coaching position
« Reply #23 on: March 17, 2015, 08:42:55 AM »


I Think half the problem is that they are trying to "coach" the bowlers. Surely if they are good enough for England the coaches job is done. Its a tactician and manager the team need. Most bowlers grow up with a personnel mentor like Finn with Fraser or Warne with Jenner, if they need technical help those are the people who know their game who should help. Same with the batting Gooch with Cook ect. Give someone a job title and they will try and fill it and interfere just to justify the title. Same with stuff like Clubmark, put it in place and suddenly it requires a whole army of development officers to police it, who would be better employed coaching in schools. These organisations just seem to exist to feed themselves and justify their positions just take a look at the legal profession.
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Re: Saker leaves England bowling coaching position
« Reply #24 on: March 17, 2015, 09:49:31 AM »

Because so much good bowling is done on Twitter...

You miss my point. If you talk a good game, then why not put your money where your mouth is? No point scoring easy points on twitter about Englands bowling, if you aren't prepared to apply for the job? I hope both apply btw - our bowlers need some help!
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Re: Saker leaves England bowling coaching position
« Reply #25 on: March 17, 2015, 09:52:19 AM »

I can't see a backroom team of Gillespie, Ponting, Warne and Brett Lee. Jesus christ, this is England we are talking about. Can you imagine rocking up to an Ashes series with that lot on the England balcony? I know it doesn't matter where they are from on paper but get real!
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Re: Saker leaves England bowling coaching position
« Reply #26 on: March 17, 2015, 10:24:56 AM »

I can't see a backroom team of Gillespie, Ponting, Warne and Brett Lee. Jesus christ, this is England we are talking about. Can you imagine rocking up to an Ashes series with that lot on the England balcony? I know it doesn't matter where they are from on paper but get real!

Your right, best sticking with the best coach of his generation and losing meekly because he's english.
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Re: Saker leaves England bowling coaching position
« Reply #28 on: March 17, 2015, 10:55:33 AM »

Put Martin Moxon in charge of the whole bloody shower
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Re: Saker leaves England bowling coaching position
« Reply #29 on: March 17, 2015, 11:15:43 AM »

Your right, best sticking with the best coach of his generation and losing meekly because he's english.

I'm not saying no to one or two of them, but can you honestly see the whole England back room staff being Australian? I think Dizzy would be a great choice, I just can't see the Home balcony at Lords being manned by 5 aussies.
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